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Via an email sent to us earlier today:

Campus Alert
Classroom South 1st floor Restroom
09/20/2010 1:55 p.m.

A Robbery by Intimidation was reported to Georgia State University Police, on Wednesday, September 29, 2010. A GSU student reported that on September 29, 2010 at 1:55 p.m. he was approached by two unknown individuals as he was exiting the restroom. One individual grabbed him by the neck and the other individual threatened to shoot him if he moved. The student did not see any weapons and stated that he was not injured.

The suspects are described as two black males.The first black male is described as 5'4", 120 lbs., wearing grey shirt, baggy light jeans, and blue cap. The second black male is described as wearing a white t- shirt, dark jeans and dark blue cap. To see photos of the suspects, please click here: http://www.gsu.edu/images/UniversityPol ... 092910.pdf ).

If you have any information about this incident, please contact the Georgia State University Police at (404) 413-2100. You may also call the Police Tip Line at 404-413-3211.

You may request a safety escort on campus by calling the GSU Police at
(404) 413-2100. A police officer or a security guard will drive or walk you to your destination.

Please contact Crime Prevention at (404) 413-3213 for Safety Tips and Safety Programs.
 

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A "Robbery by Intimidation", interesting, I guess this way it won't be reported as a gun crime on campus.
 

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mountainpass said:
A "Robbery by Intimidation", interesting, I guess this way it won't be reported as a gun crime on campus.
No gun was seen so it wasnt a gun crime. Doubt they had a gun to be honest.

I bet it wont be long or hard to catch them since they have cameras on every floor of that building.

No doubt we will be talking about this in my classes tomorrow since 3/5 of them are in that building.
 

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Perry73779 said:
mountainpass said:
A "Robbery by Intimidation", interesting, I guess this way it won't be reported as a gun crime on campus.
No gun was seen so it wasnt a gun crime. Doubt they had a gun to be honest.

I bet it wont be long or hard to catch them since they have cameras on every floor of that building.

No doubt we will be talking about this in my classes tomorrow since 3/5 of them are in that building.
If you claim to have a gun while robbing a business, it's still armed robbery, whether you actually had a gun or not.
 

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GSU PD doesn't seem to try and stack the stats. If there was a weapon, they tell us a knife, gun, etc. was used. Where they screw us over is when they don't report a robbery of a non-student just off campus to us, since APD deals with those.

Now for the reason I don't think he had a gun is because I would think he would show it if he did. I think it was just an intimidation move. Make the student think you have one. Less risk involved there, but who knows. It is just speculation on my part.
 

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Nothing new at link but they had a video about it just now on WSB, said it was the third such crime in two weeks. Last Monday two robberies happened within a half hour of one another.
 

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Thugs have seen other thugs get shot holding up people on the street, stores, motels, etc. and they are scared. They need to rob people at places they feel safer knowing it's illegal for their intended targets to be carrying.
 

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so if someone approaches you and claims to have a gun and you shoot them are you absolved form any liability if it turns out they don't have a gun? Seems that it would help if you have a witness, otherwise its your word against the (supposedly) dead mans, and a prosecutor might take advantage of that!
 

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Adam5 said:
Perry73779 said:
mountainpass said:
A "Robbery by Intimidation", interesting, I guess this way it won't be reported as a gun crime on campus.
No gun was seen so it wasnt a gun crime. Doubt they had a gun to be honest.

I bet it wont be long or hard to catch them since they have cameras on every floor of that building.

No doubt we will be talking about this in my classes tomorrow since 3/5 of them are in that building.
If you claim to have a gun while robbing a business, it's still armed robbery, whether you actually had a gun or not.
Bingo! :righton:

I would really like to know what kind of robbery does not involve some type of intimidation on the part of the suspect.... unless the victim is just an entirely passive sheep.
 

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MesaCranker said:
I would really like to know what kind of robbery does not involve some type of intimidation on the part of the suspect.... unless the victim is just an entirely passive sheep.
Purse snatching. Most type of snatch and run robberies. No chance to react and be intimidated.
 

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MesaCranker said:
Adam5 said:
Perry73779 said:
mountainpass said:
A "Robbery by Intimidation", interesting, I guess this way it won't be reported as a gun crime on campus.
No gun was seen so it wasnt a gun crime. Doubt they had a gun to be honest.

I bet it wont be long or hard to catch them since they have cameras on every floor of that building.

No doubt we will be talking about this in my classes tomorrow since 3/5 of them are in that building.
If you claim to have a gun while robbing a business, it's still armed robbery, whether you actually had a gun or not.
Bingo! :righton:

I would really like to know what kind of robbery does not involve some type of intimidation on the part of the suspect.... unless the victim is just an entirely passive sheep.
More Robbery by Intimadation at GSU: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=57640
 

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DrGlock said:
so if someone approaches you and claims to have a gun and you shoot them are you absolved form any liability if it turns out they don't have a gun? Seems that it would help if you have a witness, otherwise its your word against the (supposedly) dead mans, and a prosecutor might take advantage of that!
that is a really good question....
 

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DrGlock said:
so if someone approaches you and claims to have a gun and you shoot them are you absolved form any liability if it turns out they don't have a gun? Seems that it would help if you have a witness, otherwise its your word against the (supposedly) dead mans, and a prosecutor might take advantage of that!
O.C.G.A. § 16-3-21
Use of force in defense of self or others; evidence of belief that force was necessary in murder or manslaughter prosecution
(a) A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to defend himself or herself or a third person against such other's imminent use of unlawful force; however, except as provided in Code Section 16-3-23, a person is justified in using force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury to himself or herself or a third person or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.


I'm assuming that this kind of robbery is a forcible felony? If so, then use of deadly force would seem justified according to Georgia law. I'm not a lawyer, but that's the way I read it. But what would happen if you used a firearm to prevent a felony in a prohibited area, in this case a school?
 

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stuk in irak said:
DrGlock said:
so if someone approaches you and claims to have a gun and you shoot them are you absolved form any liability if it turns out they don't have a gun? Seems that it would help if you have a witness, otherwise its your word against the (supposedly) dead mans, and a prosecutor might take advantage of that!
O.C.G.A. § 16-3-21
Use of force in defense of self or others; evidence of belief that force was necessary in murder or manslaughter prosecution
(a) A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to defend himself or herself or a third person against such other's imminent use of unlawful force; however, except as provided in Code Section 16-3-23, a person is justified in using force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury to himself or herself or a third person or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.


I'm assuming that this kind of robbery is a forcible felony? If so, then use of deadly force would seem justified according to Georgia law. I'm not a lawyer, but that's the way I read it. But what would happen if you used a firearm to prevent a felony in a prohibited area, in this case a school?
Great question! Since it's a prohibited area, by law you can't have a firearm there anyway. I guess this would only apply to carriers who are not law-abiding.. and therefore not eligible for a GWL anyway.

If you took this situation out of a prohibited area though and put it in a place where it's legal to be armed, would being threatened with a gun that doesn't exist still justify a defensive shooting even if you couldn't see the gun? If the BG is behind me threatening me with a gun, I think I'd have to react whether it actually exists or not. Like has been said already, it's still armed robbery... like having a candy bar in your pocket and holding up a gas station.

The last thing I'm going to do is allow myself to be executed. If I'm going down, he might as well have a few large holes in his chest as well.
 

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Campeck1911 said:
I'd like to see a 5'4 120lb guy try to fake rob me. :lol:
2 v 1 makes it a little less fun...but still.
This is what I was thinking. 5'4" and a whopping 120lbs? They would have had to shoot me. No way Im letting someone that small rob me.
 

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25SockMonkey said:
Great question! Since it's a prohibited area, by law you can't have a firearm there anyway. I guess this would only apply to carriers who are not law-abiding.. and therefore not eligible for a GWL anyway.
What about a weekend warrior who's going to school? They are exempted so this wouldn't be a prohibited area for them.

Tubbith said:
Campeck1911 said:
I'd like to see a 5'4 120lb guy try to fake rob me. :lol:
2 v 1 makes it a little less fun...but still.
This is what I was thinking. 5'4" and a whopping 120lbs? They would have had to shoot me. No way Im letting someone that small rob me.
What if it was someone like this this guy? :mrgreen:
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