[HannitizedRushBaby]

I need to get more info... but my friend's hubby has offered me a Glock .357 for $150!!

I know NOTHING about it yet, but I'm definitely interested in finding out more. Do any of you have this type of firearm? I know there is a lot of anti-Glock talk out there, but I have heard a lot of good stuff about Glocks too.

Just wondering what some of y'all thought about that offer. Any comments on that type of gun, questions I should ask him, etc...??

Hopefully I'll get to find out more (and possibly get to fire the actual gun) sometime soon! I'll keep y'all posted... :wink:

 

[ThetaReactor]

.357 SIG tends to be outrageously expensive. Aside from that, it seems to perform fairly well, with occasional complaints of overpenetration. This is to be expected, since it's just a really hot 9mm. If the .357 isn't to your liking, a barrel and mag [and possibly recoil spring] swap will let you shoot .40S&W.

 

[GunCrazed]

My dad had one at one time... great gun. I liked it because of its power and Glocks are sexy. :mrgreen: The only thing that I wasn't fond of was its size, but thats to be expected with the .357 Glock though.
And at $150 he either has a really good reason to get rid of it (like money desperation) or may not know how much they go for.

If it were me... I'd buy it.

Oh, and ask him if it's stolen hahaha

 

[gsusnake]

Or you could get a Sig 229 in .40 (which you can convert to .357) from some guy I know who is selling one.

 

[GunNut]

I love the 357 Sig round. I have a glock 32 and 33. Both are excellent shooters. Oh, before the anti-glock people start recommending me trading in these for Sigs and HKs, I also have a P229, P239, HK USPc, & P2000SK in 357 Sig.

Yes, I believe you can swap the barrel and shoot .40 S&W. You won't need new magazines and I don't believe the recoil spring will need to be swapped either.

As for expensive to shoot, depends on where you get your ammo. Really not any more expensive than .40 S&W or .45 ACP. Here are two sources for target ammo:

http://www.georgia-arms.com/index.asp?P ... egory=3135

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/brow ... 0AMMUNTION

I've shot the Georgia Arms ammo, no problems there. I have some of the Precision on order, don't really know about it yet, but you can't beat the price.

 

[ptsmith24]

Yes, you can swap the barrels. I think that's all you have to do.

Have you seen the gun in person? Check to see if the serial number(s) are still there. Also, check for normal wear/tear, etc. If you have a chance to shoot it before you buy, go for it. If he knows more than a little bit about guns (and it really is in decent condition and not stolen), I don't think he'd be offering to sell it for so cheap. The only thing you'd find that cheap now are milsurps and maybe a .22 rifle.

Even if the ammo is expensive (which most of it is getting there now), you'll definitely make up the difference in what you would have paid elsewhere for the same gun. You can probably get the gun and close 1000 rounds of .357 close to what you would pay elsewhere.

 

[GrimJack]

I have a Glock 32 and it is one of my favorite weapons. It is either on my belt or in my nightstand safe. Load it up with CorBon DPX or some other JHP of your choice and you have a very good defensive weapon. It is a little snappier than a 9mm and has a very distinctive sound when it fires. $150 sounds like a steal. And yes, I too own a Sig but have not succumbed to the dark side and purchased an HK. If I do I want an MP5.

 

[budder]

I hate to say this, but buy it, even though it's a Glock. That's a really good price for a .357 Sig gun, even though it's a Glock. In fact, were I in your situation, I would probably buy it, even though it's a Glock, though probably to resell, since I can barely afford 9mm

Buy it, even though it's a Glock.

 

[VolGrad]

Or you could get a Sig 229 in .40 (which you can convert to .357) from some guy I know who is selling one.

Somewhere in one of the many other threads I saw this gun mentioned in, I think I heard reference to "pushy customer service". LOL.

I would snatch up this Glock .357 without hesitation and then worry about the rest later. For that price you could just flip it and make some money -or- you could just keep it as a backup gun.

 

[Rammstein]

Make sure you shoot it first.

Like volgrad said, you should still buy it and then you can probably flip it.

You're not really getting that much (if any) gain in ballistics over a 9mm.

 

[VolGrad]

Make sure you shoot it first.

Better yet, let the seller shoot it first, in your presence. Then if it doesn't blow up, you shoot it. LOL.

For $150, I'd probably buy it from you/him. PM me if it doesn't blow up and don't want it.

 

[VolGrad]

Which model is it?

 

[tace]

I am what you would call anti-Glock but I would still buy it at that price. You can either flip it or if you don't like the .357 Sig round, you can convert to .40 S&W. Would make a decent house gun.

 

[GrimJack]

Make sure you shoot it first.
You're not really getting that much (if any) gain in ballistics over a 9mm.

Ballistics difference for:

CORBON DPX Loads
9 MM LUGER +P 115 GR. DPX 1250 FPS 399 FTLBS
357 SIG 125 GR. DPX 1350 FPS 506 FTLBS

Hornady
9mm 124gr TAP - FPD 1110 fps 339 ft-lbs
357 SIG 124gr JHP/XTP 1350 fps 502 ft-lbs

I would say that 22-34% more energy makes a decent amount of ballistic difference. In this case not just my opinion and I also very much like a 9mm round as long as it is a good round. With that said if I could find something with the size, weight and reliability of a Glock 19 that held 15 rounds of 45ACP I would carry that. I would prefer the same thing in 7.62x39 though.

 

[gsusnake]

Or you could get a Sig 229 in .40 (which you can convert to .357) from some guy I know who is selling one.

Somewhere in one of the many other threads I saw this gun mentioned in, I think I heard reference to "pushy customer service". LOL.

So when I'm trying to sell a gun, it's pushy customer service, but when I'm trying to sell GCO memberships, it's "smooth talking"?

That's fair.

 

[Rammstein]

I've read the stats before. I'm talking about performance on the end...what happens to ballistic gelatin and bad people.



The gain is marginal at best.

 

[VolGrad]

Make sure you shoot it first.
You're not really getting that much (if any) gain in ballistics over a 9mm.

Ballistics difference for:

CORBON DPX Loads
9 MM LUGER +P 115 GR. DPX 1250 FPS 399 FTLBS
357 SIG 125 GR. DPX 1350 FPS 506 FTLBS

Hornady
9mm 124gr TAP - FPD 1110 fps 339 ft-lbs
357 SIG 124gr JHP/XTP 1350 fps 502 ft-lbs

I would say that 22-34% more energy makes a decent amount of ballistic difference. In this case not just my opinion and I also very much like a 9mm round as long as it is a good round. With that said if I could find something with the size, weight and reliability of a Glock 19 that held 15 rounds of 45ACP I would carry that. I would prefer the same thing in 7.62x39 though.

Check the URL on your GCO hyperlink in your signature. I think you are missing a "Y".

 

[GrimJack]

I've read the stats before. I'm talking about performance on the end...what happens to ballistic gelatin and bad people.



The gain is marginal at best.

Did you think to put a ruler up to the damage in the gelatin and see the damage is about twice as wide for the SIG than the 9mm plus a little more penetration.

 

[ptsmith24]

I've read the stats before. I'm talking about performance on the end...what happens to ballistic gelatin and bad people.



The gain is marginal at best.

Did you think to put a ruler up to the damage in the gelatin and see the damage is about twice as wide for the SIG than the 9mm plus a little more penetration.

I know I wouldn't want to be on the destination end of either. :lol:

 

[Rammstein]

I've read the stats before. I'm talking about performance on the end...what happens to ballistic gelatin and bad people.



The gain is marginal at best.

Did you think to put a ruler up to the damage in the gelatin and see the damage is about twice as wide for the SIG than the 9mm plus a little more penetration.

The damage with which you refer to is called the temporary cavity.

Here is what the FBI concluded about temporary cavity wounds, per their report on Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness:

Of the remaining factors, temporary cavity is frequently, and grossly, overrated as a wounding factor when analyzing wounds. Nevertheless, historically it has been used in some cases as the primary means of assessing the wounding effectiveness of bullets.

The most notable example is the Relative Incapacitation Index (RII) which resulted from a study of handgun effectiveness sponsored by the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration (LEAA). In this study, the assumption was made that the greater the temporary cavity, the greater the wounding effect of the round. This assumption was based on a prior assumption that the tissue bounded by the temporary cavity was damaged or destroyed.

In the LEAA study, virtually every handgun round available to law enforcement was tested. The temporary cavity was measured, and the rounds were ranked based on the results. The depth of penetration and the permanent cavity were ignored. The result according to the RII is that a bullet which causes a large but shallow temporary cavity is a better incapacitater than a bullet which causes a smaller temporary cavity with deep penetration.

Such conclusions ignore the factors of penetration and permanent cavity. Since vital organs are located deep within the body, it should be obvious that to ignore penetration and permanent cavity is to ignore the only proven means of damaging or disrupting vital organs.

Further, the temporary cavity is caused by the tissue being stretched away from the permanent cavity, not being destroyed. By definition, a cavity is a space in which nothing exists. A temporary cavity is only a temporary space caused by tissue being pushed aside. That same space then disappears when the tissue returns to its original configuration.
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