Glock 19 4th Gen

How many magazines were you using? If I were you, I would number them so you can see if the malfunctions occurred with one magazine or both. Most FTF (in my experience) are magazine related. If the malfunctions are limited to one magazine, then perhaps you have a bad one. It would be unlikely both mags are bad from the factory, but certainly not impossible. Also, the subcompacts seem to be more vulnerable to failure from limp wristing than full size. I can't see the ammo you were shooting being a problem, Glocks should eat almost anything.

Did your friends who shot it also have poor groups, or was it just you? Also, I'm assuming you tore it down and did a good cleaning before hitting the range?

Personally I'm not a fan of Glocks, but I love the XDs for carry guns. I've got a decent collection of XDs in various calibers, etc and have never had a single malfunction with any of them. I also shoot the XD better than the Glocks because the grip angle seems more natural to me.

Perhaps you should take your Glock and visit the factory if you're not too far from Smyrna. From what folks here say, they have excellent customer service and I'm sure they would be willing to take a look at it for you to see if they can find a problem.

I wouldn't give up on it yet. Although I prefer the XDs, Glock no doubt makes a great gun and they will stand behind it.

Best of luck, I'm sure somebody here more knowlegable than I will chime in. Whatever you do, don't give up on carrying because you're having a bad experience right now. Either get Glock to take a look at it for you, or pick up something else you are more comfortable with.

I love my XDs, and a 9mm service model is my EDC, and a 45ACP service model with a Streamlight TLR-2 is my bedside gun. I'm currently in Ryan's backlog to get some custom leather done and will be alternating my XD9 and a CZ 75-B as my EDC once I get my new leather. I love the XD as a carry gun, just want something different as an alternative. I've got a few hundred rounds through the CZ so far with no failures as well, so I'm pretty confident it in right now. I think I actually shoot better with it than the XD.

Thanks for all of the replies!

That's great advice to number the mags. I have three Glock mags and four KCI mags. I check the brand when it jams, and I've seen jams with both brands, so it's been at least two of the seven magazines. I'll number them and keep track, but I think it's something with the gun.

I didn't clean the whole gun when before taking it shooting. I did clean the bore out really well. I will do a very thorough cleaning and report back the next time I shoot it.

I don't go over to Glocktalk. I can barely wade through the ads to find the content, and they push their paid memberships too much, in my opinion.

Yea, after picking up the XD9SC and shooting better with it, I've been thinking very hard about switching over. I want to give the Glock a fair chance though. The XD might have an unfair advantage in that my first and only handgun before this Glock was an XD45, I'm used to shooting it. I'm going to shoot the Glock some more, but if I just can't tighten my groups up with it I really won't have any other choice.

Thanks for the Glock Inc info. I'm in Savannah, so they're not close, but I'll give them a call. Like many of you have said, it could very well be the recoil spring.

When I took it down tonight, this is what I found. The brass colored particles look very gritty, but when I wipe them off I can't feel them if I rub them between my fingertips. Their either very fine or dissolve.




From here, I'm going to give it a very thorough cleaning and lube it a tiny bit. I'm gonna grab some snap caps and do a lot of dry firing and cycling. Hopefully that will help me get used to the trigger and work the gun in a bit. I'll buy some other brands of FMJ, maybe some heavier loads. I'm going to buy a notebook to take to the range, to keep better track of the rounds I've fired and the conditions when it jams, trying to find some common factors.

Thanks for all of the replies folks. Feel free to post any more advice you have. I'll keep updated with the progress.