[RepeatDefender]

I have a chance to pick up a very nice G17. What do I need to know about it?

Here's what I do know:

It is 3rd gen, with 2 17rd mags, box, and papers, LNIB (less than a full mag fired).

Now I already have a hi-cap 9mm in my Ruger P89. Is there anything about a G17 that would make me need two fullsize hi-cap 9mm pistols?

Thanks for the help/advice.

 

[USMC - Retired]

What do I need to know about it?

Here's what I do know:

Now I already have a hi-cap 9mm in my Ruger P89.

That you would get far more enjoyment from a Kegerator... :wink:

 

[GunNut]

One for each hand?

 

[RepeatDefender]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Thanks, ya'll have been extremely helpful...

:lol: :lol: :lol: Now I'll be wiping the Pepsi off my computer screen...

 

[ber950]

Not unless you plan on carrying two. Lets face it this is not about need. Its about want.

Hi my name is XXX and I am a compulsive gun buyer.

 

[RepeatDefender]

Damn...I've never even met ya'll and you know me.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ok, then, does the want of a Glock 17 outweigh the want of a Springfield GI Champion 4" 1911?

Hi, my name is Ric, and I am a compulsive gun buyer/trader....

There, I said it, happy now :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[USMC - Retired]

Ok, then, does the want of a Glock 17 outweigh the want of a Springfield GI Champion 4" 1911?

That depends...

Do you want a firearm that was designed by John Moses Browning, made of metal and proven over time to be an effective man stopper or do you want a sissy gun toy made from melted down happy meal toys?

 

[RepeatDefender]

Thank you for your words of wisdom USMC-Retired!

That seals it, no Glock for me! :lol:

What was I thinking anyway? :shock:

 

[legacy38]

I own a Ruger P95 and a Glock 19 and a S&W 5906TSW; so, I have three 9mm handguns.

You have a much better logistical support system for Glocks. Holsters are more plentiful. Magazines are much less costly, and Glocks are by far the simplest of pistols to maintain.

 

[Mafuta54]

I have owned a Ruger P95DC for over 10 years and fired about 10,000 rounds through it without any peoblems so what is not to like about the Ruger? And it cost about half of what a plastic gun costs!

 

[mmmTang]

If you already have one high cap pistol, then there are plenty of reasons to buy another in the same caliber:
1. just because
2. Ammo commonality
3. Backup
4. One for the wife/husband/dog to use (not a cat though, they're shifty)
5. two hands, two guns, not a coincidence

I've got a G17 and will buy another at some point in time. If I'm ever involved in a shooting or one breaks then I have an exact copy sitting in the safe. And I can hand one to the wife if we're both in need of one. Two is one and one is none.

 

[mmmTang]

sorry, I forgot the most obvious and most important reason to buy another:
He who has the most toys, WINS!

 

[GeorgiaGlocker]

Ok, then, does the want of a Glock 17 outweigh the want of a Springfield GI Champion 4" 1911?

That depends...

Do you want a firearm that was designed by John Moses Browning, made of metal and proven over time to be an effective man stopper or do you want a sissy gun toy made from melted down happy meal toys?

Ok gunny prove to me that a Glock is not a proven man stopper. I'm waiting!

 

[GeorgiaGlocker]

Thank you for your words of wisdom USMC-Retired!

That seals it, no Glock for me! :lol:

What was I thinking anyway? :shock:

No so fast. There are many days when gunny over medicates and it easy to tell by his posts.

 

[RepeatDefender]

I didn't mean to start a brand/type discussion. I just wanted a few opinions.

Thanks!

 

[USMC - Retired]

Ok, then, does the want of a Glock 17 outweigh the want of a Springfield GI Champion 4" 1911?

That depends...

Do you want a firearm that was designed by John Moses Browning, made of metal and proven over time to be an effective man stopper or do you want a sissy gun toy made from melted down happy meal toys?

Ok gunny prove to me that a Glock is not a proven man stopper. I'm waiting!

Did I say that a Glock wasn't a proven man stopper? Hmmmm... I don't recall saying that.... I may have said that the 1911 is a proven man stopper. I don't think anyone would argue that fact. But I really don't remember saying anything about the glocks effectiveness. Now given that the choices he presented are a 1911 in .45 and a G17 in 9mm I will go on record now as saying that the 1911 in .45 is a definate proven man stopper and the G17 in 9mm does not present that same confidence level. Of course if you can show me where a 9mm has more knockdown power than a .45 of the same bullet construction then by all means I will withdraw my statement....

well......

I'm waiting...... :twisted:

 

[GeorgiaGlocker]

I didn't mean to start a brand/type discussion. I just wanted a few opinions.

Thanks!

You haven't started anything. This has been going on for a good while. Gunny just made an interesting statement and I just want him to back it up!

 

[GeorgiaGlocker]

[quote="USMC - Retired":20rnxqx1]

Ok, then, does the want of a Glock 17 outweigh the want of a Springfield GI Champion 4" 1911?

That depends...

Do you want a firearm that was designed by John Moses Browning, made of metal and proven over time to be an effective man stopper or do you want a sissy gun toy made from melted down happy meal toys?

Ok gunny prove to me that a Glock is not a proven man stopper. I'm waiting!

Did I say that a Glock wasn't a proven man stopper? Hmmmm... I don't recall saying that.... I may have said that the 1911 is a proven man stopper. I don't think anyone would argue that fact. But I really don't remember saying anything about the glocks effectiveness. Now given that the choices he presented are a 1911 in .45 and a G17 in 9mm I will go on record now as saying that the 1911 in .45 is a definate proven man stopper and the G17 in 9mm does not present that same confidence level. Of course if you can show me where a 9mm has more knockdown power than a .45 of the same bullet construction then by all means I will withdraw my statement....

well......

I'm waiting...... :twisted:[/quote:20rnxqx1]

It was inferred by your statement.

 

[USMC - Retired]

[quote="USMC - Retired":3b854uja]

Ok, then, does the want of a Glock 17 outweigh the want of a Springfield GI Champion 4" 1911?

That depends...

Do you want a firearm that was designed by John Moses Browning, made of metal and proven over time to be an effective man stopper or do you want a sissy gun toy made from melted down happy meal toys?

Ok gunny prove to me that a Glock is not a proven man stopper. I'm waiting!

Did I say that a Glock wasn't a proven man stopper? Hmmmm... I don't recall saying that.... I may have said that the 1911 is a proven man stopper. I don't think anyone would argue that fact. But I really don't remember saying anything about the glocks effectiveness. Now given that the choices he presented are a 1911 in .45 and a G17 in 9mm I will go on record now as saying that the 1911 in .45 is a definate proven man stopper and the G17 in 9mm does not present that same confidence level. Of course if you can show me where a 9mm has more knockdown power than a .45 of the same bullet construction then by all means I will withdraw my statement....

well......

I'm waiting...... :twisted:

It was inferred by your statement.[/quote:3b854uja]

In all seriousness I was refering the the caliber of the weapon when I refered to it as a man stopper. After all the stopping power is in the bullet not the firearm.

However, if you do want to compare the stopping power of the firearm itself and not the bullet we can do that.

Next time were at the range you can hit me with the butt of your glock and I'll in turn hit you with the butt of my kimber.... :twisted: :rotfl2:

 

[legacy38]

[quote="USMC - Retired":2btrkzh8]

Ok, then, does the want of a Glock 17 outweigh the want of a Springfield GI Champion 4" 1911?

That depends...

Do you want a firearm that was designed by John Moses Browning, made of metal and proven over time to be an effective man stopper or do you want a sissy gun toy made from melted down happy meal toys?

Ok gunny prove to me that a Glock is not a proven man stopper. I'm waiting!

Did I say that a Glock wasn't a proven man stopper? Hmmmm... I don't recall saying that.... I may have said that the 1911 is a proven man stopper. I don't think anyone would argue that fact. But I really don't remember saying anything about the glocks effectiveness. Now given that the choices he presented are a 1911 in .45 and a G17 in 9mm I will go on record now as saying that the 1911 in .45 is a definate proven man stopper and the G17 in 9mm does not present that same confidence level. Of course if you can show me where a 9mm has more knockdown power than a .45 of the same bullet construction then by all means I will withdraw my statement....

well......

I'm waiting...... :twisted:[/quote:2btrkzh8]

I'll concede that the .45ACP is a "better" stopper (whatever that means) than the 9mm, but I will not concede that the 1911 is a better platform in which to deliver it to a threat than is the Glock. :lol:

If my choices in a pinch are an out of the box 1911 or an out of the box G17, I will choose the G17.