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I have read something about his "new" views on 2a and can't remember if it was on this board or not. Here is an interesting article. He is still a d!#k IMO. I think he is saying whatever he has to say to get votes.

FoxNews.com said:
Giuliani: Blind Should Be Able to Carry Guns
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
By Mosheh Oinounou

LEBANON, N.H. â€" Republican presidential front-runner Rudy Giuliani is leaving the door open to allowing the blind and physically disabled to carry guns.

During a town hall meeting in northwestern New Hampshire Tuesday night, Giuliani told a former police officer blinded in the line of duty and concerned about the former New York City mayor's stance on guns, "You don't have to worry."

"You have a constitutional right, that is protected, to bear and carry arms. It is the Second Amendment," Giuliani told about 200 attendees in a high school gymnasium in Lebanon. "If someone disagrees with that, you have to get the Constitution changed."

He added that he believes in only three restrictions for those wishing to exercise their Second Amendment right â€" a previous criminal record, a history of mental instability and an age requirement.

Kenyon Tuthill, 61, who served as a Suffolk County, N.H., police officer until his injury, told FOX News that he was satisfied with Giuliani's answer.

During his two terms as mayor, Giuliani supported strict gun laws at both the local and national level and advocated the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. But as a presidential candidate, he vows to protect Second Amendment rights at the federal level allowing state and local authorities to determine their own "reasonable" restrictions.

New Hampshire, the Live Free Or Die State, is known for its limited gun-control laws, including no waiting period for purchases, no background checks for buyers of rifles and shotguns and no restrictions on children under 18 possessing firearms, according to the Brady Campaign, a gun-control advocacy group.

But the rural state with lots of sportsmen and a high rate of gun ownership annually has fewer than 100 total murders, including non-gun crimes, and Second Amendment rights are hugely important to constituents of both parties.

New Hampshire allows the blind to possess firearms, Tuthill said.
 

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He added that he believes in only three restrictions for those wishing to exercise their Second Amendment right â€" a previous criminal record, a history of mental instability and an age requirement.
I forgot where the Constitution said that natural rights don't apply to those three categories. It's probably one of the first lines, but I just can't find it. :(
 

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agree

I agree with Rudy. But IF powers greater than myself mandate a hands-on shooting test to "qualify" for a carry permit, I would say that there should be special consideration made for people whose physical disabilities prevent them from doing accurate shooting. For a blind person, there ought to be a much lower standard for hitting the target, although it woudn't be unreasonable for that citizen to have to have additional training to show that he's aware of his limitations and the special tactical problems he'll face in a deadly force encounter. It might not be unreasonable for him to be limited in caliber and ammo selection, since it's much more likely he'll miss center-of-mass and therefore overpenetration would be a major concern. Glaser safety slugs would make so much more sense than standard-weight FMJ rounds.
 

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Guiliani is simply trying to "soften" his more liberal positions to appear more palatable to the right wing element of the republican party. If he garners the republican nomination, I fully expect him to extend an invitation to Mike Huckabee at the convention to be his vice-president, and I expect Huckabee to accept. Any other action would divide the republican party and assure a win in the general election by Clinton.
 

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I agree with him, I just don't believe him.
Ditto. I also think it is telling that in this article he comes across as a relatively strong supporter of the second amendment, whereas he was just recently stating that he saw no problem with a large city such as New York having strict gun control legislation in place.

One of these is not like the other, and old Rudy is simply showing his stripes as a politician .... say what they want to hear and then do what you want to do.
 

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Imagine if a politician came out in favor of a different First Amendment depending upon where you live. Or a different Fourth Amendment.

:roll:
 

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I agree with what someone else said before on another post: Guiliani is riding on the publicity from 9/11 to get support for his nomination. And I don't think he's being sincere regarding his "change of heart" towards keeping and bearing arms, it's just another politician's tactic to get more votes. But I think it's a certainty that whoever wins the Republican candidacy (Rudy seems to be ahead so far) will be going against Hillary....and that is a choice I'm reluctantly preparing myself mentally for: vote for Guiliani or not vote at all. :?
 

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FoxNews.com said:
"You have a constitutional right, that is protected, to bear and carry arms. It is the Second Amendment," Giuliani told about 200 attendees in a high school gymnasium in Lebanon. "If someone disagrees with that, you have to get the Constitution changed."
He's only half right. If someone repealed the 2nd it wouldn't mean sh!t because the constitution granted no new rights it merely recognized preexisting rights which exist because we are free people, not subjects.
 

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I remember Rudy saying in one of the recent debates that the Constitution "grants" you the right to bear arms. Tells me all I need to know about his political philosophy.

Years ago I remember a story about a blind person who carried a .44 magnum loaded with blanks. :shock:
 
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