GCO Sues Corps of Engineers Over Right to Carry On Corps Property June 13th, 2014

Discussion in 'Georgia In the News' started by tmoore912, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Comments are now accessible.
     
  2. Groundhound

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    Any update on the proposed rule change, or do we still need to ask for a permission letter?
     

  3. jrm

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    It's been over three years. They know how to make a rule change. I think they're running out the clock.
     
  4. ICP_Juggalo

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    So what is the SOP for wanting to carry on COE property out of state? I have both a Florida non res and Utah non res and want to get permission to carry on projects in those states/districts. Will they accept a non-res license to carry on COE out of state covered by those licenses?
     
  5. ICP_Juggalo

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    Here is a photo of the districts

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  6. ICP_Juggalo

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    I frequent Nevada and use my Utah license to carry in Nevada. So I guess I would have to write the Los Angeles, Sacramento, and Walla Walla districts if I wanted to be covered for the state of Nevada.
     
  7. Hombre

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    I'm just guessing, but I wouldn't be surprised if they screwed you over too, and made you go apply in person for one of their permission letters, like they had done to some people districts near here.

    It sure seems like they are now playing politics and being real buttheads, instead of them making it appear as if they were finally doing the right thing. I only say that because it seems like they may have done the comment thing for the rule change proposal...just for show. I hope I am wrong about that.
     
  8. Gary Slider

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    It looks like it will be February before they make the final decision but it is a done deal just waiting for a slow government. It has to be published in the Federal Register and in most cases there is a 30 day period after the publication of the new rule before it goes into effect. so by the end February or sometime in March it should be effective.
     
  9. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Why the delay in getting it published? If they need help drafting the rule I am sure a couple around here could handle it.

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  10. Hombre

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    Excellent news. Thanks for the update.

    On a side note, I wish I could become a government employee. Then I would be virtually unaccountable for much of anything. Just don't get in the way of someone playing politics, and you're golden. But I am an old white male who isn't a veteran, so I don't have a chance in hell of getting any government job, especially at the USPS. I had a former friend get a job there. The one and only reason (he was a 30 year old white male) he got the job was because he had been in the Navy. However, he had received a discharge for psychological reasons (because he had done way too much LSD while in the Navy). He, in particular, wasn't any danger to anyone (except on the road, because he was an alcoholic and pothead), but we all joked about him "Going Postal".
     
  11. jrm

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    Where did this information come from?

    And, by February there will potentially be a new sheriff in the Whitehouse who may not be so keen on the rule change.
     
  12. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Yes, I should have asked for a source citation.

    And 21 posts here in 13 years does not infer credibility.

    Nemo
     
  13. jrm

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    Well, if that's really Gary and not someone impersonating him, he's well known to some of us. I don't question his credibility, just the source. It might be correct, but it's not entirely consistent with information I have obtained from the army lawyers we litigated this case against. So I wondered.
     
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  14. ICP_Juggalo

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    Update on my letters. Took a month to get letter from Mobile and Jacksonville. Still Waiting on Savannah, Nashville, Sacramento, and Los Angeles.
     
  15. rmodel65

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    I dont know why you dont think you can get a government job. Granted veterans get preference if the job is open to the public. You should just be open to move anywhere to get in. I moved 800 miles away and got hired. Then I promoted just barely a year later and moved 1300 more miles from there. Then lateraled back to Georgia all while not being a veteran.
     
  16. Gary Slider

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    I got the Feb 2021 info in a phone call I made. From all I have heard it is a done deal. What made the difference was all the people asking the district commanders their permission. Read it and they tell you about how much it costs to give those permission slips. Want to get government to do something. Make them work and they will change the rules to make it easier on them.
     
  17. jrm

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    They also could just resume denying them out of hand, like in the good 'ole days. That was easier, too.
     
  18. Gary Slider

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    They could deny them but you can still apply as the federal rules say you can and that would make them respond. That is what they don't want to do as it makes them work. They want this giving permission slips to disappear and just let the people carry. Their buildings and dams will still be posted.
     
  19. Hombre

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they just start ignoring the permission request letters, unless something happens and Trump stays in office. I doubt there is anything requiring them to write denial letters, and tossing the requests into a file folder or trash can would be much easier for them than going through all of the red tape to make the rule change official.

    This is a self-serving organization that knows that they can get away with determining what their own purpose is, and doing whatever they want, while ignoring (by stalling) the directive of their commander-in-chief.

    I really, really hope I am wrong, though.
     
  20. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    So in Feb. we can carry on our GWL openly or concealed just like other Federal park property?