Front Sight
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I did a lot of research on classes, and while Front Sight's advertising is very impressive, they misuse member money (spending it on their tv show and advertising instead of the facilities improvements they promised). The training there should be very competent, though the other big training facilities will be just as good, if not better.
Personally, I would attend LFI-I, Massad Ayoob's class. If his reputation isn't good enough, there's a recent review on THR: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3489832 and I have a friend that has told me about how comprehensive his training there was. My understanding is that while FS might teach you how to shoot well, they don't help as much in the aftermath should you have to employ those skills. And all LFI graduates have the additional bonus of having Ayoob come in as an expert witness for free, should you go to trial.
Personally, I would attend LFI-I, Massad Ayoob's class. If his reputation isn't good enough, there's a recent review on THR: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3489832 and I have a friend that has told me about how comprehensive his training there was. My understanding is that while FS might teach you how to shoot well, they don't help as much in the aftermath should you have to employ those skills. And all LFI graduates have the additional bonus of having Ayoob come in as an expert witness for free, should you go to trial.
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That could be worth A LOT at a time where you already have too many worries and need all the help you can get.budder said:
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Actually I'll be attending for free. It will cost me airfare, lodging, and rental car. I ordered the info, and if you sign up to receive it and see what they're all about, it's pretty worthwhile. In exchange for me having links for their advertising on my own website for the next 3 years, I will be attending any of the 4 day courses for free. Got the certificate already.
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Did you get the video they produced budder? If not, check it out and see what Dr. Piazza is trying to do. He's not just doing training, but trying to work towards changing the perception of the 2nd Amendment as well. I'd spend my money there just to help the cause after seeing what I did.budder said:
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I image they are talking about a dear or some animal like it. But, is shooting an animal like that going to be productive? Bullets do a lot of strange things because of a myriad of variables, and that is just in bipedal species.Malum Prohibitum said:
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Most likely a pig. They are very similar to humans as far as ballistics performance goes and you can eat the test subject afterwards. Plus no pesky game laws to worry about.Rammstein said:
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My guess is pig, and this will have a lot more productive to say about bullet performance than shooting gelatin.
Yeah, pig is very close anatomically to humans (more so than chimps?), and weight is close, too.
Yeah, pig is very close anatomically to humans (more so than chimps?), and weight is close, too.
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The hard part is getting the pig to stand on it's hind legs while wearing a ski mask and holding a glock fotay sideways....
I got the same certificate! Well not in hand yet...should be in my PO Box this week. I don't see myself affording the trip all the way to Vegas anytime in the distant future so I asked Dr Piazza if there were any plans for a facility for us folks here in the East and he said that they have plans for regional facilities so one in the East would be likely! At any rate after scouring over the site, the testimonials, etc., it seemed like a worthy experience to look forward to.wsweeks2 said:
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The company I work for is closed for Columbus Day and we get to take either our birthday off or a day afterwards if we can't take the specific day off. That means I can take Oct 5th (my Bday) and Oct 8th off as our office is closed, which works out with the Oct 5th-8th class they are having this year.
Problem with funding is that I'm getting married on the 3rd of November and the fiance and I are footing the bill. Now I'm mad that we're paying to feed a bunch of people from both sides of the family that we haven't heard from in years, nor will we probably see them for another 5 years.
Problem with funding is that I'm getting married on the 3rd of November and the fiance and I are footing the bill. Now I'm mad that we're paying to feed a bunch of people from both sides of the family that we haven't heard from in years, nor will we probably see them for another 5 years.
Well you could kill two birds with one stone and elope to Vegas and attend Front Sight as your honeymoon!!! :wink: I hope to attend w/my friend/firearms instructor and to us it would be a very cool mini vacation that is if I can convince him to get on a plane (he has huge fear of flying!)!! :lol: LMAO....Seriously...I hear ya on the wedding expense thing but receptions don't *have* to be sit down dinners by any means!! Hope it all works out for you and look forward to hearing bout your experience at Front Sight.wsweeks2 said:
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found this on 10-8
Sad news:
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6752130
A Fourth of July celebration at a weapons training facility near Pahrump ended with the death of a young father. According to the Nye County sheriff, the man -- identified as Jesus Valencia --Martinez -- was sliding down a zip-line as part of the ropes course at the facility.
The rider before him had not cleared the hydraulic platform at the end of the line before Martinez began his run. As a result, Martinez collided with the platform. He died at the scene.
Eyewitness News I-Team began their investigation of Front Sight Firearms Training Institute more than two years ago. Several people who bought memberships to the facility filed a class action lawsuit alleging fraud, racketeering and misappropriation of funds.
Efforts to settle the case are on-going, though the latest agreement would provide members with a refund if they surrender their memberships. Wednesday's accident occurred during the facility's annual Fourth of July party.
The sheriff says Martinez's family was there when he died. Detectives are investigating whether there was any negligence on the part of the facility. An autopsy is scheduled for next week.
Sad news:
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6752130
A Fourth of July celebration at a weapons training facility near Pahrump ended with the death of a young father. According to the Nye County sheriff, the man -- identified as Jesus Valencia --Martinez -- was sliding down a zip-line as part of the ropes course at the facility.
The rider before him had not cleared the hydraulic platform at the end of the line before Martinez began his run. As a result, Martinez collided with the platform. He died at the scene.
Eyewitness News I-Team began their investigation of Front Sight Firearms Training Institute more than two years ago. Several people who bought memberships to the facility filed a class action lawsuit alleging fraud, racketeering and misappropriation of funds.
Efforts to settle the case are on-going, though the latest agreement would provide members with a refund if they surrender their memberships. Wednesday's accident occurred during the facility's annual Fourth of July party.
The sheriff says Martinez's family was there when he died. Detectives are investigating whether there was any negligence on the part of the facility. An autopsy is scheduled for next week.
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