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What kind of phone is it? Samsung A-51 or S-20 or ? ? ?

But the carriers still have records and work with the govt.

I would be more considered with the carrier than the actual phone initially.

How does swapping SIM card do anything regarding privacy?

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Zero specs available. Most of the links on the site are “Buy it now”. Asking a search engine turned up several indicators it’s a rebranded Umidigi.
 

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Yep - very shady website.

Looks like a neat idea, though. Anything to get away from Google is GOOD. However, the phone is too damned big. As long as reasonably-sized phones are still available, I refuse to buy a phone that I cannot put in one of those little side phone pockets in Wrangler jeans or shorts, since I have a bad habit of bumping door jambs. Plus, a bigass phone on a belt holster looks goofy as hell.
 

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Yep - very shady website.

Looks like a neat idea, though. Anything to get away from Google is GOOD. However, the phone is too damned big. As long as reasonably-sized phones are still available, I refuse to buy a phone that I cannot put in one of those little side phone pockets in Wrangler jeans or shorts, since I have a bad habit of bumping door jambs. Plus, a bigass phone on a belt holster looks goofy as hell.
Is there a non-Android OS to run on such a phone?
 

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Is there a non-Android OS to run on such a phone?
The claim is they have their own OS called FreedomOS. It's not an IOS, Android or Windows.
 
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Yep - very shady website.

Looks like a neat idea, though. Anything to get away from Google is GOOD. However, the phone is too damned big. As long as reasonably-sized phones are still available, I refuse to buy a phone that I cannot put in one of those little side phone pockets in Wrangler jeans or shorts, since I have a bad habit of bumping door jambs. Plus, a bigass phone on a belt holster looks goofy as hell.
"Shady"? How so?
 

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Right now, there's a whole micro-industry based on predation of conservatives/conspiracy nuts/etc, because those folks (many of whom are seasoned in years) are easy pickin's. Offhand, I'd say anything which bills itself as "for liberty" or "anti-censorship" or "non-PC" are worth some healthy scrutiny... I'm talking crapfests like GETTR, etc.

My guess is that "Freedom Phone" falls in this category.

If I wanted a consumer solution to privacy (ie. as opposed to a DIY effort), I would look at Purism's products, like their Librem 5 phone. It's run by folks with a track record of interest in privacy and security.


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The Freedom Phone is an opportunist scam.

The phone is reliably 'outed' as a relatively inexpensive Chinese model, offered at a $300 premium. Phone hardware itself can open you to vulnerabilities and security issues. There's zero information at the manufacturer's website that talks about the hardware itself.

The OS claims to be FreedomOS. There's been a phone OS around for some time with that name, but it's not clear whether the two are the same, or related in any way. Again, there's zero information at the manufacturer's site that talks about this.

The applications - are not listed - so it's hard to tell what will load, won't load, or is already loaded on this device. This is another red flag.

Real Talk: Figure out what you want to use your phone for. Recognize that your behavior on that phone can and will give rise to metadata that can be used by the authorities for parallel construction. Using appropriate apps (available on your google device) you can often find a secure-enough product for communication itself (Briar, Signal, Threema etc) and in some cases, you'll be able to obscure SOME of your metadata, and usually most or all of your human communication.

Assume everything is compromised. The principles of covert low-tech communication is the same. Establish small cells that - if compromised - minimally impact other cells in the network. Don't be "chatty". Don't develop a pattern of behavior that allows your adversary to predict your future actions.

EVEN IF the Freedom Phone was legitimate and trustworthy, (it isn't), you shouldn't ignore the above principles.
 

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Figure out what you want to use your phone for.
Easy for me. Make a phone call when I need to and receive a phone call when I'm in the mood to answer. Dumb phone forever. As always needs vary.
 

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Easy for me. Make a phone call when I need to and receive a phone call when I'm in the mood to answer. Dumb phone forever. As always needs vary.
A good start. However, you're still trackable using a Stingray device.

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On an old-school phone like a Motorola RAZR 5, you can switch it off and/or even better, remove the phone battery (another good reason why you're never alone with a modern smartphone). Naturally, if you're not transmitting any IMSI data from your phone, you can't send or receive even voice.

If you're under some degree of scrutiny, you'll be being tracked and so that phone call that routes to voice mail which can be retreived by the guys out at Ft. Meade, but the metadata that even a dumb cell phone generates is more likely to be being analyzed by my countrymen back at GCHQ in Cheltenham, UK and passed back to the NSA in an "information sharing" program.

All in all, it's so hard to stay under the radar that a good citizen (or permanent resident alien) is far better off just eating the bugs, taking the vaccine, and living in that cube - just as they're told. It's just better for everyone.
 

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A good start. However, you're still trackable using a Stingray device.
If I were concerned about tracking I would not be typing this. That horse left the barn long ago. I'm well aware that modern dumb phones can be tracked as well as relocated Brits.:giggle:
 
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Plus, a bigass phone on a belt holster looks goofy as hell.

Update, 3 month review on BA belt holster.

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Intentionally withholding critical information and only having multiple Buy It Now links doesn't appear shady to you?
It looks low cost but beyond that, I'm no expert. When it comes to computers, I'm a Schultz. Didn't know if you saw something...
 

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The founder/maker/bitcoin millionaire Eric Finmann appeared on Fox News at 0853 this morning.

The phone is made in Hong Kong.

He tried to make in the U.S. but there is no phone manufacturing source here.

Its an Android, with the google stuff washed out from the open source Android OS with other adjustments creating the Freedom OS.

Those are statements from the 3 minute interview. It should be watchable on their site fairly soon.

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A good start. However, you're still trackable using a Stingray device.
Take your phone with you in a Faraday case in case of an emergency. No emergency, no one knows where you've been. Or am I missing something?
 
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