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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...mp-geert-wilders-found-guilty-discrimination/



Dutch far-right wing politician Geert Wilders was today found guilty of hate speech and inciting racial discrimination for leading a chant calling for "fewer, fewer" Moroccans in the Netherlands.

Presiding Judge Hendrik Steenhuis said the court would not impose a sentence because the conviction was punishment enough for a democratically elected lawmaker. Prosecutors had asked judges to fine him 5,000 euros ($5,300).
Abdou Menebhi, one of the complainants, said that he was "satisfied". He told The Daily Telegraph: "For the first time, Wilders has been condemned for racism and discrimination: half a million people feel the threat of Wilders every day. This gives us trust in the legal process. I hope people who vote for Wilders will listen."

Meanwhile Lucien Nix, a solicitor for the council of Moroccan mosques in Holland added that his clients would be discussing whether they could bring a civil process after this ruling.

"The Netherlands can take a deep breath of relief," he added. "Moroccan Dutch people have felt robbed of their dignity and a heightened sense of discrimination. We have waited for this for a long time."
 

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Does Geert Wilders know that gun rights helps to secure free speech rights?
 

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Coming to an America near you.

Reasonable restrictions just like firearms.

National Security. Fake News, ect.
 

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Who was he addressing? If the Dutch, why speak in English?
I have been to Holland several times. Most Dutch speak better English than most Americans. They use it all the time. I do not know to whom he was addressing his speech, but it would seem that he would want to reach an international audience that is probably not aware of such speech restrictions, especially Americans, where we take it for granted that we can say pretty much anything we want and see this right abused commonly.
 

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He should have thrown ten silver dimes at them and walked off.
For real effect it should be 30 pieces of silver. So, now free speech is no longer allowed in Europe. Sad. It is now more evident than ever why Brexit was both called for and none too soon.
 

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The Dutch want their country back, he says.

Yeah, that's a good idea. Immigrants / refugees should only be admitted to the extent that they will assimilate or settle-in to successful, law-abiding lives that contribute to the good of everyone. When immigration of some kinds of people from certain areas of the world is a clear negative to the host country, it needs to be stopped.

Moroccans have no right to move to the Netherlands and enjoy that country's quality of life.

(P.S. I have no idea what this particular guy has a beef with Moroccans in particular, and not immigrants from other turd-world nations full of people that hate Western democracies but want to live in such places while they attempt to overthrow that form of government. But I assume he has his reasons, and if I were Dutch and following news over there, I'd probably know what it's all about).
 

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"I think God made all people good.
But if we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them in Virginia,

which group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?"


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- This Week With David Brinkley, December 8, 1991

At least Pat wasn't charged with hate crimes or unlawful speech. That was not possible in 1991. It's possible, but not likely, today. 20 years from now, if we don't flush the politically-correct, anti-White, anti-Western, anti-capitalist, anti-American SJW's out of our universities and our government and especially our courts, maybe it will be a crime to say that you think the American salad bowl has too many radishes in it, and they're spoiling the taste.
 

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I have been to Holland several times. Most Dutch speak better English than most Americans. They use it all the time. I do not know to whom he was addressing his speech, but it would seem that he would want to reach an international audience that is probably not aware of such speech restrictions, especially Americans, where we take it for granted that we can say pretty much anything we want and see this right abused commonly.
Pretty much this. Wilders does most of his major speeches in both Dutch and English anticipating that others will mirror them and push them forward. The Dutch MSM barely gives him any press or it's severely slanted against him. The Dutch depend heavily on the internet to get the complete story.

It'll be interesting to see how he does in next February's elections and whether the Dutch will continue the turnaround that's happened in England, the US and Italy.
 

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Who was he addressing? If the Dutch, why speak in English?
He releases his speeches in both Dutch and English to reach the largest possible audience. He does a lot of internet communication because the Dutch media has blacklisted him. He literally chanted "fewer, fewer, fewer" when referring to Moroccan immigrants at his political rally. These Moroccan immigrants riot and assault Dutch natives on an unprecedented scale. Wilders was charged and is now convicted of violating Netherlands' hate speech laws. The court almost fined him $5300 but chose to nix the fine. This is literally speech policing and speech crime.
 

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(P.S. I have no idea what this particular guy has a beef with Moroccans in particular, and not immigrants from other turd-world nations full of people that hate Western democracies but want to live in such places while they attempt to overthrow that form of government. But I assume he has his reasons, and if I were Dutch and following news over there, I'd probably know what it's all about).
Dutch Moroccans are the largest immigrant population in the country (although, at 10%, it seems the immigrant population is pretty diverse compared to the US, where Mexico alone contributes three times that before adding in other central and south american countries). I think the major beef has been that the Moroccan population has increased by 50% since 1996. 16% of males under 25 in Amsterdam are now Moroccan.

40% of Moroccan males between 12 and 24 have been arrested, fined, or charged with crimes. Some say it is because they have a crime problem. Others say it is because the police are racist.
 

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Dutch Moroccans are the largest immigrant population in the country (although, at 10%, it seems the immigrant population is pretty diverse compared to the US, where Mexico alone contributes three times that before adding in other central and south american countries). I think the major beef has been that the Moroccan population has increased by 50% since 1996. 16% of males under 25 in Amsterdam are now Moroccan.

40% of Moroccan males between 12 and 24 have been arrested, fined, or charged with crimes. Some say it is because they have a crime problem. Others say it is because the police are racist.
sounds very familiar
 

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Dutch Moroccans are the largest immigrant population in the country (although, at 10%, it seems the immigrant population is pretty diverse compared to the US, where Mexico alone contributes three times that before adding in other central and south american countries). I think the major beef has been that the Moroccan population has increased by 50% since 1996. 16% of males under 25 in Amsterdam are now Moroccan.

40% of Moroccan males between 12 and 24 have been arrested, fined, or charged with crimes. Some say it is because they have a crime problem. Others say it is because the police are racist.
Change a few words, sounds like America
 

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Except they are not (yet) charging and convicting people in the U.S. for voicing their opinions about immigration.
 

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Except they are not (yet) charging and convicting people in the U.S. for voicing their opinions about immigration.
Wait til Trump gets out. Look three steps ahead on authoritarians.

You must slowly take away all our rights to completely rule us, 1st A is more important than 2a I'll explain if you need, you have to think like them. If nobody speaks up, nobody KNOWS. or can know.
 
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