Found a nice machete

Discussion in 'Weapons' started by Glockenator, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. Glockenator

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    I've been looking for a machete to keep in my back floorboard, and found a great one today. I spend a good bit of time in the woods hiking, camping and taking my old 2wd 4Runner places it should not go (that thing utterly amazes me offroad). A machete can come in real handy while doing those things. Plus, it makes a fearsome weapon. Might come in handy if ammo runs out or defense needs to be accomplished quietly.

    I am not easily impressed by the vast majority of edged weapons, but this thing is really nice.

    http://www2.fiskars.com/Products/Gardening-and-Yard-Care/Machetes-and-Billhooks/Machete-22

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    Plusses:
    1) Proper heft for a swinging tool. Excellent balance.
    2) Comes with a great edge. Most edged tools need sharpening right out of the package (except for Spyderco and Mora knives, which don't). Neither does this one.
    3) No saw on the back. I despise those, since they are generally worthless as a saw, and they destroy sheaths.
    4) Price. $15.98 at the evil orange empire.
    5) Very comfortable and functional handle.
    6) Holes in blade and handle for hanging it on a wall and adding a cord loop to the handle.

    Minuses:
    1) No sheath. I ended up making one. PITA to do, but I like making stuff in my workshop.

    This is the first machete I have ever bought that I am really pleased with.
     
  2. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    It looks like a 22” blade model in the pic.
    It that the one you got?
    I prefer 18” machetes, and would even go for 16” if the blade were thicker to give the same kinetic energy per blow.
     

  3. Glockenator

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    Yes, it is 22". What stinks is that the package doesn't indicate the blade length, and without buggering up the package but pulling it out, you can't even see the blade. If I had a choice, I probably would have picked 18", but this length works great and the balance in a swing is just about perfect. It delivers a lot of energy, and made mincemeat of pine limbs in my back yard.
     
  4. Smilodon

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    That is decent looking. I have machetes of all sizes and prefer the longer ones. I am partial to Imacasa and other Central and South American made machetes. The people in those regions have a lot of experience using and designing machetes.

    BudK over in Moultrie sometimes has them on sale bogo. Currently they have a 18" Gavilan on special. http://www.budk.com/Talla-Corneta-Gavilan-Machete-BOGO-43736

    I picked up a heavy 18" Tramontina at Lowes a while back. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Tramontina-Machete/1000107703
     
  5. gunsmoker

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    I've tried many machetes, but I prefer the U.S.G.I. style from Ontario Knife Co.
    18" blade with plain plastic handle riveted-on. It's a heavy blade, and good for chopping fresh wood, even hardwood, up to maybe 5" thick.
    (It can do more, but I said it's "good" for up to 5" thickness. For over that, it's probably just "adequate" or "will serve in a pinch.")

    https://bladereviews.com/ontario-machete-review/

    If this machete is not perfect, I'd say the only imperfection is the formula of plastic used in the handle. It can get brittle with age and abuse, and I've had two of them crack or split over the years. I'd also like to see a dedicated right-hand-only grip for it, with a thumb rest.
     
  6. ed4

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    Gunsmoker I have one of those OKC U.S.G.I machetes, looks like the one in you're link. It came with the plastic sheath like the one in the link.

    One thing I don't get is the guy doing the review adding a sharpening stone, if you look at the opening there is a sharpener that folds into the blade to sharpen as it's being removed. That sharpener seems to work fine on mine.
     
  7. johnski

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    That looks good. I have a Cold Steel Gladius "machete". Thing came razor sharp.
     
  8. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    1BBDE7C8-7349-4A61-8EC3-BC4F1703294D.jpeg 55E142D9-63C5-473D-A0E4-E545CF2FDFD6.jpeg I have been attacking bamboo (mature, grown 20 feet tall), kudzu, privet bush, and various weeds with various edged weapons lately.

    I tried a cheap machete, but the blade was thin and light weight. It didn't cut well with a normal-velocity swing. The blade was the same thickness as a quarter (the 25 cent coin). Google results say a quarter is 0.07" or 1.75 mm.

    In contrast, my Ontario Knife Company (OKC) blade is O.12 inch or 2.8 mm. Trouble was, I didn't have room to swing a machete with an 18 inch blade in that dense jungle growth where I was working, which also had tree trunks for trees that were not going to be cut, and a fence that I didn't want to smack with my blade.

    So I went shopping for a shorter machete with a 10" to 14" blade. I found a couple at both Academy Sports and Walmart, but they had similarly THIN blades (only the same thickness as a quarter or maybe a nickel), and considerably thinner than what I was hoping for.

    P.S. The full-length Fiskars machete I examined had a blade thickness exactly the same as a nickel coin-- 0.077" or 1.95 mm. That's too thin for me.
     
  9. gunsmoker

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    For a measly $13, I picked up this Ozark Trail 10" bladed sawback machete. I measured the blade later at my workbench, and it was 0.08 inch, about the width of the cylinder gap on a cheap revolver. That's only 2 mm.


    I'd prefer 3mm or 3.5 mm.


    Also, the saw back in this one is dull. Rounded-off tips and no squared-off edges. The saw teeth look forged, not cut or machined. It is nowhere near as effective as even a cheap carpenter's hand saw, nor as good as the saw-back on my Glock FM 81 field knife.
     
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  10. gunsmoker

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    P.S. This 10-inch blade mini machete works "ok" for my purposes, but not "good." It isn't any better at hacking thru bamboo than my 6.5" bladed Glock knife. I think it's a little better than the knife for chopping a V-notch thru a large limb.
     
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    These two offerings also had basically the same kind of coin-thickness blades. About .07" to .08".

    One's called a REAPR "Tac Bowie" with a 7- inch blade, snd the other is a TACTICAL PERFORMANCE brand Tanto machete with a 10- inch blade.

    I didn't buy either, based on how thin the spine of the blade looked through the packaging.
     
  12. gunsmoker

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    7A947687-442F-4F40-978A-27823EEB28CC.jpeg [QUOTE="Smilodon, post: 2918343, member: 69059] I am partial to Imacasa and other Central and South American made machetes. ....I picked up a heavy 18" Tramontina at Lowes a while back. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Tramontina-Machete/1000107703[/QUOTE]


    I checked out the Tramontina, made in Brazil, at Lowe's. It looked and felt like a standard cheap imported machete. The blade was as thick as a nickel -- 1.9 mm or 0.08" of steel.
     
  13. gunsmoker

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    Nice. Right blade thickness (0.25" or 6.4 mm).
    Right blade length (14 inches).
    Classy looking.
    Comes with a quality leather sheath / scabbard (I've had a similar one for my OKC machetes for the last 25 years-- Used the same sheath with 3 different machetes so far).

    If only this rig would only cost about $50 instead of $90...

    (I have champagne taste, but a beer budget).
     
  14. Malum Prohibitum

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    You could probably get it lowered in price if they made a thinner blade, made it ugly, and replaced the sheath with nylon.
     
  15. gunsmoker

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    A920591B-4977-4C69-BD45-3383CDBF8F56.jpeg EA4BC111-7AE7-4446-AFB6-D0E90A500777.jpeg There are a couple of Bowie knives and kukri ( traditional Nepal chopping knife/military weapon of the Gurka fighters) that have thick blades like I'm looking for.

    This Magellan bowie pictured above, selling for $25 at Academy Sports, has a 4.0 mm blade, or 5/32 of an inch. Now, if only the blade were 12" long instead of 8 inches.
     
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    Nice machete! My friend who loves to forge blades gave me a machete. He's a veteran at forging so the blade is well made. Ive used it several times on hunting and camping trips.
     
  18. Hombre

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    I have 2 of the OP machetes. I got them at the local home center store, either Lowe's or H.D., and I forgot which one, but I think I paid a little over $20 each for them. I carry one in each of my vehicles. I found some sheaths that happen to fit them on Amazon.

    I have a question for the attorneys here regarding machetes: Would they not legally be considered a weapon, since the definition of a weapon is qualified with something like, "Designed for the purpose of offense or defense"? A machete was designed to cut plants, not to chop heads or limbs off, or to stab. If the package mentions anything, it is usually, if not always, in terms of cutting brush, limbs, vines, etc.

    In light of that design fact, could a machete be legally carried in some places where weapons are prohibited, similar to 12+" barrel handguns and .17 HMR firearms?