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Gunstar1 said:
I have a feeling this topic is going to be heavily anti-leo.

With good reason.
How about making it anti-purveyors-of-child-porn instead? Law enforcement did its job by arresting him.

If the guy was a produce clerk at a local grocery store or an accountant would the thread then turn negative towards produce clerks or accountants?
 

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legacy38 said:
Gunstar1 said:
I have a feeling this topic is going to be heavily anti-leo.

With good reason.
How about making it anti-purveyors-of-child-porn instead? Law enforcement did its job by arresting him.
I would like to, but see he accessed protected files from his patrol car. Since he abused his job, he violated the public trust and I think any LEO who does that in any way, being child porn or drugs or taking bribes etc, needs to be publicly denounced by everybody.

And yes he was arrested, however he turned himself in. There was no 2am paramilitary raid on a suspected child porn purveyor known to have firearms at his home.
 

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Gunstar1 said:
legacy38 said:
Gunstar1 said:
I have a feeling this topic is going to be heavily anti-leo.

With good reason.
How about making it anti-purveyors-of-child-porn instead? Law enforcement did its job by arresting him.
I would like to, but see he accessed protected files from his patrol car. Since he abused his job, he violated the public trust and I think any LEO who does that in any way, being child porn or drugs or taking bribes etc, needs to be publicly denounced by everybody.

And yes he was arrested, however he turned himself in. There was no 2am paramilitary raid on a suspected child porn purveyor known to have firearms at his home.
He was charged with violating his oath of office.

When I was a detective, it was very common to notify people that I had taken out arrest warrants on them and allow them to surrender rather than going and raiding their home.
 

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legacy38 said:
Gunstar1 said:
legacy38 said:
Gunstar1 said:
I have a feeling this topic is going to be heavily anti-leo.

With good reason.
How about making it anti-purveyors-of-child-porn instead? Law enforcement did its job by arresting him.
I would like to, but see he accessed protected files from his patrol car. Since he abused his job, he violated the public trust and I think any LEO who does that in any way, being child porn or drugs or taking bribes etc, needs to be publicly denounced by everybody.

And yes he was arrested, however he turned himself in. There was no 2am paramilitary raid on a suspected child porn purveyor known to have firearms at his home.
He was charged with violating his oath of office.

When I was a detective, it was very common to notify people that I had taken out arrest warrants on them and allow them to surrender rather than going and raiding their home.
I am glad he was.

Actually I had no idea that they served warrants other than to knock on the door or through a lawyer (as point of contact). I just don't want to see SWAT raids to serve arrest warrants on people that own guns (I have read stories of it happening in other states).
 

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Gunstar1 said:
I have a feeling this topic is going to be heavily anti-leo.
These freaks come in every shape, size, color, sex, nationality, religious creed and job description.
No way to pin this one on him being a cop...except to say that he DAMN well should have known better.
 

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Gunstar1 said:
legacy38 said:
Gunstar1 said:
legacy38 said:
Gunstar1 said:
I have a feeling this topic is going to be heavily anti-leo.

With good reason.
How about making it anti-purveyors-of-child-porn instead? Law enforcement did its job by arresting him.
I would like to, but see he accessed protected files from his patrol car. Since he abused his job, he violated the public trust and I think any LEO who does that in any way, being child porn or drugs or taking bribes etc, needs to be publicly denounced by everybody.

And yes he was arrested, however he turned himself in. There was no 2am paramilitary raid on a suspected child porn purveyor known to have firearms at his home.
He was charged with violating his oath of office.

When I was a detective, it was very common to notify people that I had taken out arrest warrants on them and allow them to surrender rather than going and raiding their home.
I am glad he was.

Actually I had no idea that they served warrants other than to knock on the door or through a lawyer (as point of contact). I just don't want to see SWAT raids to serve arrest warrants on people that own guns (I have read stories of it happening in other states).
Yup. Our standard practice is to notify a person about the warrant and give them an opportunity to surrender. That way they can arrange to have someone post bond, which actually saves time on the processing and is easier on both the accused and the jail staff. We also provide the number to jail intake so they can actually arrange a time to surrender. A deputy from the warrant division will come looking for them once the warrant makes it that far into the system. Of course, not all situations are "standard". A serious felony or a situation where flight is obviously a concern would change things. Also, if they come into contact with an officer prior to surrendering they will be arrested on the spot if the warrant has made it to the computer system.

The above is the way things are done in my agency, but it is my understanding from conversations with people from other agencies that they have similar practices.
 

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Come on guys, this site is supposedly anti-leo. It can't be if no one trashes them at every opportunity. :wink:
 

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legacy38 said:
Yup. Our standard practice is to notify a person about the warrant and give them an opportunity to surrender. That way they can arrange to have someone post bond, which actually saves time on the processing and is easier on both the accused and the jail staff.
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The above is the way things are done in my agency, but it is my understanding from conversations with people from other agencies that they have similar practices.
It is certainly not uniform. There are counties that love to go out at 4:00 a.m. and knock on doors with no warning whatsoever.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
legacy38 said:
Yup. Our standard practice is to notify a person about the warrant and give them an opportunity to surrender. That way they can arrange to have someone post bond, which actually saves time on the processing and is easier on both the accused and the jail staff.
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The above is the way things are done in my agency, but it is my understanding from conversations with people from other agencies that they have similar practices.
It is certainly not uniform. There are counties that love to go out at 4:00 a.m. and knock on doors with no warning whatsoever.
Another prime example of "the police" not being one big uniform bogyman. You could take officers from a cross section of departments and discuss procedures and practices and get a virtual multitude of different answers.

I'd be willing to bet an empty shell casing to a full box of Federal Gold Match that agencies that do the 0400 door knock for misdemeanors have more public relations issues than those that take a more sensible approach.
 

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I guess he should have known better because he was in law enforcement... but shouldn't everyone? I've worked in the government in some capacity for close to 15 years and I've personally known at least a half-dozen people get the boot for either having porn on their government computers and/or visiting porn sites at work. This is part of the training you get about 3 times a year in addition to the general everyday consenses not to F with questionable crap at work. A lot of people in general are just stupid. Or sick. Or both.
 

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I guess he should have known better because he was in law enforcement... but shouldn't everyone? I've worked in the government in some capacity for close to 15 years and I've personally known at least a half-dozen people get the boot for either having porn on their government computers and/or visiting porn sites at work. This is part of the training you get about 3 times a year in addition to the general everyday consenses not to F with questionable crap at work. A lot of people in general are just stupid. Or sick. Or both.
Yup. Very true words.
 

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I work at a private company and we have had people that were given numerous chances, and I even had to put blockers on their machines. Only then they just went to other computers, I guess thinking that by moving to the computer 20ft. away, it would hide where they went.

Talk about lack of self control.
 

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I work at a private company and we have had people that were given numerous chances, and I even had to put blockers on their machines. Only then they just went to other computers, I guess thinking that by moving to the computer 20ft. away, it would hide where they went.

Talk about lack of self control.
lol...
I chalk that up to people just not fully knowing how easy it is to monitor people's data when they get on a computer.
 
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