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Great painting, excellent video.. OUTSTANDING story

thank for the post bykr
 

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Not bad... not perfect... but good.
 

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Too Cool!
Sadly, there are those who still believe in the American Dream..sadly they believe in it only for a small sliver of Americans and everyone who is not American....God Bless America and thank you for sharing :righton:
 

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EJR914 said:
Not bad... not perfect... but good.
I agree. There's a few presidents looking abhorred when they should really be on the applauding side.... but the painting is the correct view if you were educated by the government and lean conservative.
 

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JiG said:
EJR914 said:
Not bad... not perfect... but good.
I agree. There's a few presidents looking abhorred when they should really be on the applauding side.... but the painting is the correct view if you were educated by the government and lean conservative.
That's what I was going for. There were quite a few presidents that trampled on the Constitution that looked abhorred.

Also, remember, even the greatest proponent of small government, a well check government, Thomas Jefferson did some borderline unconstitutional things in office, and also at the same time he greatly expanded or surpassed the, then, powers of the president. He certainly broadened the powers of the executive branch, which is something he claimed to hate. I know TJ was a man of much hypocrisy and duality.

He still has of the best quotes from the founding fathers, IMHO.

Look at Bush, he should have been jumping up and down! He signed the Patriot Act for goodness sakes! 4th Amendment went out of the window.
 

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EJR914 said:
Also, remember, even the greatest proponent of small government, a well check government, Thomas Jefferson did some borderline unconstitutional things in office, and also at the same time he greatly expanded or surpassed the, then, powers of the president. He certainly broadened the powers of the executive branch, which is something he claimed to hate. I know TJ was a man of much hypocrisy and duality.

He still has of the best quotes from the founding fathers, IMHO.

Look at Bush, he should have been jumping up and down! He signed the Patriot Act for goodness sakes! 4th Amendment went out of the window.
Power is a helluva drug.
 

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JiG said:
EJR914 said:
Not bad... not perfect... but good.
I agree. There's a few presidents looking abhorred when they should really be on the applauding side.... but the painting is the correct view if you were educated by the government and lean conservative.
Not all of us conservatives are still "falling in line" with the GOP establishment. And I abhor the time I spent being educated by the government.
 

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No. Spoken like a cynic. The artist had to deliberate for months as to whether he should paint such a horribly controversial thing [about as controversial as the average political cartoonist's doodles whilst on the toilet], but he didn't have to hesitate a bit to make a bloody film about it, complete with a ridiculous soundtrack. The man's an attention whore, the painting is nothing particularly special, and the video producer should be peddling this sort of overblown schlock to Sundance, not Teabaggers.
 

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No. Spoken like a cynic. The artist had to deliberate for months as to whether he should paint such a horribly controversial thing [about as controversial as the average political cartoonist's doodles whilst on the toilet], but he didn't have to hesitate a bit to make a bloody film about it, complete with a ridiculous soundtrack. The man's an attention whore, the painting is nothing particularly special, and the video producer should be peddling this sort of overblown schlock to Sundance, not Teabaggers.
I agree. Whether to make a painting over half the country will agree with is not something that takes a vision quest into the wilds of Alaska to decide. He also ignores that most presidents will and have walked right over the Constitution when it suited them, including Jefferson, both Roosevelts, Lincoln, and even Washington. It sure as heck doesn't excuse Obama, but trying to pretend he's "the first one to ever sully the glorious respect the executive branch has always held for the Constitution" is nothing but a memetic marketing ploy.
 

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JDcollins78 said:
JiG said:
EJR914 said:
Not bad... not perfect... but good.
I agree. There's a few presidents looking abhorred when they should really be on the applauding side.... but the painting is the correct view if you were educated by the government and lean conservative.
Not all of us conservatives are still "falling in line" with the GOP establishment. And I abhor the time I spent being educated by the government.
There's always exceptions to the norm. "Well, not all xxxxx are/were/is/will xxxxx." Of course, there's always exceptions. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the norm.
 

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JDcollins78 said:
JiG said:
EJR914 said:
Not bad... not perfect... but good.
I agree. There's a few presidents looking abhorred when they should really be on the applauding side.... but the painting is the correct view if you were educated by the government and lean conservative.
Not all of us conservatives are still "falling in line" with the GOP establishment. And I abhor the time I spent being educated by the government.
I really could care less who is or isn't falling in line. The truth comes down to if they will still vote for the Big Government GOPers because they are the "lesser of two evils." That's where the rubber meets the road.

I could care less if one doesn't agree with what they are doing. The truth comes down to who you will vote for when the moment of truth comes. Will you "fall in line" and vote for Republican, or will you vote for someone how is really interested in Restoring the Constitution, and doesn't have a R beside his name?

That is what I really care about. If someone doesn't "fall in line" with the GOP est. and still votes for them in the moment of truth, it really doesn't matter that they don't fall in line.
 

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EJR914 said:
JDcollins78 said:
JiG said:
EJR914 said:
Not bad... not perfect... but good.
I agree. There's a few presidents looking abhorred when they should really be on the applauding side.... but the painting is the correct view if you were educated by the government and lean conservative.
Not all of us conservatives are still "falling in line" with the GOP establishment. And I abhor the time I spent being educated by the government.
I really could care less who is or isn't falling in line. The truth comes down to if they will still vote for the Big Government GOPers because they are the "lesser of two evils." That's where the rubber meets the road.

I could care less if one doesn't agree with what they are doing. The truth comes down to who you will vote for when the moment of truth comes. Will you "fall in line" and vote for Republican, or will you vote for someone how is really interested in Restoring the Constitution, and doesn't have a R beside his name?

That is what I really care about. If someone doesn't "fall in line" with the GOP est. and still votes for them in the moment of truth, it really doesn't matter that they don't fall in line.
Amen to that. I'm tired of people complaining that nothing gets done when they keep voting the same people into office. Nothing will ever change if you refuse to vote for the person you believe in because you don't think he'll win. The libertarian/small-gov republicans will start winning elections when you start voting for them and not one minute sooner.
 
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