I bought a box of Fiocchi .45 ammo off Midway recently and shot about 1/2 the box at Autrey's yesterday. It's 200gr loaded with XTP HP bullets. It makes my CW45 snap more than any other ammo I have, which is mostly 230gr HP or FMJ. Just thought I'd share that info. It was $30 + shipping for a box of HP. I also shot my PM9 and man, those 9mm holes looked like bb's next to the .45 holes. If 9mm is the widely suggested minimum caliber for self-defense, then the .45 has got it beat by a loooong ways.