Felons Getting Licenses!

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Malum Prohibitum, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    :shock:

    Oh, no!

    Or, maybe the piece is a little misleading? :D

    Here is a quote from the piece in the NYTimes.

    Pretty scary stuff, huh?
     
  2. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    So John Lott (who has a link to GCO on his page!) took a look at the issue.

     

  3. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    One out of 410,000, and we do not even know what the reason was.

    Does anyone know the murder rate per 100,000 in Florida? Take that number and multiply it by 4.1 to get the expected figure if Florida license holders were even as dangerous as the average population in Florida.
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Ooh! Ooh! I know! I know!

    Florida, according to this thread had a rate of 5.3 per 100,000. Accordingly, among 410,000 license holders, you would expect to see 21.73 murders last year by license holders, if they were as dangerous as the population at large. (4.1 x 5.3 = 21.73). That is for just one year. You would expect to see this score of murders every year, year in and year out.

    Could you imagine the news stories if there were even two or three over the last decade and a half? :shock:

    Oh, by the way, Washington D.C., which has laws regarding the carry of firearms of which the NYTimes author would presumably approve, had a rate of 35 per 100,000. No, that is not a misprint. Florida = 5.3. D.C. = 35. :shock:
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    21 murders a year. Every year.

    But they don't happen.

    And yet the liberal press always wants to portray concealed carry as "dangerous" to the public. Why don't they print the truth?
     
  6. Gunstar1

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    The press has no time to find out if things are true, they only have time to regurgitate what others have told them are true, without verification.
     
  7. pro2am

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    ...as long as it fits their views.
     
  8. viper32cm

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    They don't call it the New York Slimes for fun you know.
     
  9. Gunstar1

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    It goes either way. The reporters just get quotes from the anti-gun groups and post what they have to say. That way if you call the reporter on it, they can say they were merely repeating what the person said and that it was not something the reporter themselves are wrong about.

    Even if the reporter agrees 100% with the incorrect statement and is the one that stacked the deck so that only 1 person is quoted as for it and get quotes from 2-3 anti's to "balance" the article.

    If there is something they disagree with and they have no one that will go on the record to specifically refute it, well then they just don't put that in the news. If the news reported on every justified self defense whether the gun was fired or not, then there would be ample proof that guns are used more often as self defense.

    If you can't refute the data that backs up a view counter to what the reporter believes, then you simply don't report on it and simply say the story is not "news worthy".
     
  10. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    I sent an email to John Lott inquiring into the circumstances of the one license revocation, but he has not (yet) responded.
     
  11. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Response:

     
  12. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Letters:

    http://www.sptimes.com/2007/01/31/Opini ... mits.shtml




     
  13. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=47924

    Concealing the Facts
    New York Sun Staff Editorial
    February 2, 2007