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Just curious to why Eastman has on its brochure the public gathering law and states you could be prosecuted for bringing a loaded gun in with or without a permit? Seems to me to just be their rule and not law. If its just a rule then state it as such and stop declaring its the law on the brochure. Only if you don't have a GWL should you be prosecuted for carrying a gun without a license. If its not a place listed as off limits then it can only be their rule. With a license maybe arrested for trespassing. They say its the revised version as of 9/10.
Just curious seems one of our allies isn't quite up to speed.
 

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Probably like any other business, they can ask you to leave, but I would not think that you can be prosecuted if you had a valid GWL. They might could "ban" you from any future shows, but unless they put your picture up at the door, how would they know if you showed up a different location?

I did notice yesterday in Norcross, that they took down all the threatning public gathering signs etc. that they kept up even after the passage of SB308.
 

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Suburbbus said:
I did notice yesterday in Norcross, that they took down all the threatning public gathering signs etc. that they kept up even after the passage of SB308.
I noticed the missing signs too. I had asked about that at a show in September -- what law was I breaking?

"Criminal trespass."

"No, that's if you ask me to leave and I don't. What law am I breaking by simply walking in the door with a concealed weapon? Or a loaded magazine?"

"Criminal trespass."

The conversation was going nowhere fast. The adage against arguing with an idiot since people won't be able to tell you apart came to mind. So I paid my money and moved on.
 

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Suburbbus said:
I did notice yesterday in Norcross, that they took down all the threatening public gathering signs etc. that they kept up even after the passage of SB308.
Somebody probably called them out about it. If its a rule its the rule, If its the law then its the law. In this case its the Rule.
 

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I do not argue with idiots, I just walk by.
 

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JMJ2 said:
Suburbbus said:
I did notice yesterday in Norcross, that they took down all the threatening public gathering signs etc. that they kept up even after the passage of SB308.
Somebody probably called them out about it. If its a rule its the rule, If its the law then its the law. In this case its the Rule.
I actually made the comment to the cops at the door at the same show just after 308 was passed about how they meant absolutely nothing anymore. They just kinda nodded in agreement.
 

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I stay away from Eastman's anyway. That ol' man and his wife are just about the rudest folks I ever dealt with. I'll keep my $10 or whatever they asking for now.
 

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MossCreekShooter said:
I stay away from Eastman's anyway. That ol' man and his wife are just about the rudest folks I ever dealt with. I'll keep my $10 or whatever they asking for now.
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Docindahouze said:
MossCreekShooter said:
I stay away from Eastman's anyway. That ol' man and his wife are just about the rudest folks I ever dealt with. I'll keep my $10 or whatever they asking for now.
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I've been sticking with the RK shows lately. Specifically the large one when it comes to the ATL Expo Center.
 

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There is an eastman show coming up at the ag center in perry. Since the ag center is state owned, shouldn't they not be able to make that rule?
 

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patrick4588 said:
, shouldn't they not be able to make that rule?
They can make all the rules they want. Just not any laws. They aren't up to speed plain and simple.
 

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Ok but the ag center is state owned. Same as going to the fair, they can't tell me not to carry there
 

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patrick4588 said:
Ok but the ag center is state owned. Same as going to the fair, they can't tell me not to carry there
What does it matter who owns it?

Does below apply to the AG center? Legally thats all that matters

(3) "Government building" means:

(A) The building in which a government entity is housed;

(B) The building where a government entity meets in its official capacity; provided, however, that if such building is not a publicly owned building, such building shall be considered a government building for the purposes of this Code section only during the time such government entity is meeting at such building; or

(C) The portion of any building that is not a publicly owned building that is occupied by a government entity.

(4) "Government entity" means an office, agency, authority, department, commission, board, body, division, instrumentality, or institution of the state or any county, municipal corporation, consolidated government, or local board of education within this state.
 

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What does it matter who owns it?
I think he's implying they can not make him leave since the government owns the place. This would be so if it was an event put on by the government and the venue didn't fall under the government entity list, or even if a private company ran an event for the government.

But this is different. They are a private company renting the space to run a private event, and gain the ability to ask you to leave or trespass you. No different than a Storefront that rented or leased a building.
 

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Hi Guys,


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I really think the RK shows have better prices & more vendors with better stuff!

Best,
broomhandle
 

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phantoms said:
Adam5 said:
What does it matter who owns it?
I think he's implying they can not make him leave since the government owns the place. This would be so if it was an event put on by the government and the venue didn't fall under the government entity list, or even if a private company ran an event for the government.

But this is different. They are a private company renting the space to run a private event, and gain the ability to ask you to leave or trespass you. No different than a Storefront that rented or leased a building.
Yes this is what I was after.
 

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There is an eastman show coming up at the ag center in perry. Since the ag center is state owned, shouldn't they not be able to make that rule?
The question isn't whether they can make the rules, I can make the rules to my garage sale. The north Atlanta Trade Center isn't Gov owned I think. What I'm saying is there is no "public gathering" law other than the places listed as off limits. They are qouting an out dated law on their brochure, and threatning prosecution. Thats all.
If its not a place listed as off limits, the only thing that can keep you from legally carrying there is some rule enforced by the company, business. A sign saying "no loaded handguns with or without a permit" is our rule, is cool with me; but to say its Georgia law "public gathering" revised as of 9/10 is wrong.
 

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A sign saying "no loaded handguns with or without a permit" is our rule, is cool with me; but to say its Georgia law "public gathering" revised as of 9/10 is wrong.
It's wrong but it's not against the law to do so. :wink:

We have gained a VAST number of members to GCO because Matt Eastman gives our group table space at his events.
With that said everyone that spends five minutes learning anything about the man knows just how he is. He could not care less what your opinion is about him or about his rules or about anything else. Some folks are just that way. Whatever.

Do as you please, if you need to get your fix for being around a pretty large selection of weapons, don't mind dropping $8 or $10 bucks then go. CC or disarm as you see fit. Hell, let the cop at the door do the zip tie thing then go to the bathroom & re-arm if you want to. You aren't breaking any laws no matter what you do. At least not until ignore the cop that tells you to leave for having a loaded weapon on your side. Ignore that & you are going to get slapped with criminal tresspass and Matt is not going to let it slide.

Personally I'd just CC. YMMV.
 
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