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I would rather the party completely implode at the convention and have Hitlary as president than have to fade the decades of traction the libs would get out of the complete cluster-fornication that a Trump presidency would be. If the party implodes at the convention it has a chance to recover in four years.

Just my opinion.

(Just so we're clear, I'm voting for Gary Johnson barring a complete miracle coming out of the Repub convention.)
 

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Another attempt to circumvent the will of the people. Wasn't a pledge signed to support the primary winner of a State? if this pledge gets broken, do you think anyone will ever vote again?
Uh, yes. This is not unprecedented in the Republican Party. Seven times the Republican delegates have nominated a candidate that did not have the most delegates. Did anybody ever vote again? LOL!

http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/10/brokered-gop-conventions-often-produce-a-winning-president/
 

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Wall Street Journal is now picking up on this.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-the-delegates-1468279087

The ruling applies only to Virginia's delegates to both party conventions, but it may give an impetus to Republicans in other states who are pushing for a "conscience clause" that would unbind all delegates. That question will be put this week before the Republican National Convention's 112-member rules committee. Merely one-quarter of the rules committee, or 28 members, can send a minority report to the floor for a debate that would be followed by an up-or-down vote by the full convention.
 

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same link

Mr. Trump carried 36 states and secured about 1,450 pledged delegates, more than the 1,237 who make a majority under current GOP rules. By the time all the ballots were cast, he received 44% of the popular vote.

Then again, Mitt Romney won 52% in 2012, John McCain 47% in 2008, and George W. Bush 61% in 2000, so Mr. Trump's plurality support is the weakest of any modern GOP nominee.
 

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I would rather the party completely implode at the convention and have Hitlary as president than have to fade the decades of traction the libs would get out of the complete cluster-fornication that a Trump presidency would be. If the party implodes at the convention it has a chance to recover in four years.

Just my opinion.

(Just so we're clear, I'm voting for Gary Johnson barring a complete miracle coming out of the Repub convention.)
There will be blood in the streets!! :panic:
 

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There will be blood in the streets!! :panic:
I know that's a joke, but in all seriousness, I think that if either Hillary or Trump win (foregone conclusion) we are much, much closer to that happening than we would be with someone like Cruz, Rubio, or even (gag) Bernie.
 

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There will be blood in the streets!! :panic:
I was going to vote Johnson but the LP choice of a worse than Trump VP changed my mind. I have voted LP for many elections and this time they lost my vote. I would rather Trump get it at this point. The LP has totally lost me in this election. I feel (read hope) that at least Trump will be reigned in a lot after the election.
 

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I was going to vote Johnson but the LP choice of a worse than Trump VP changed my mind. I have voted LP for many elections and this time they lost my vote. I would rather Trump get it at this point. The LP has totally lost me in this election. I feel (read hope) that at least Trump will be reigned in a lot after the election.
Would you change you mind again if Trump chose Chris Christie as his running mate?
 

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Why can't the entire spineless, Socialist Republican Party just completely die to be replaces by the libertarian party, it would never be perfect, but anything would be better than the two party system we have now.
 

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I think Governor Pence is going to be Trump's VP pick. I was watching him on one of the networks during an interview and I like the guy already. Said he grew up in a strong Democratic family, and that the Democratic party is nothing at all like the party was when he was growing up. He pretty much finds contention with Obama on every item I also find contention with.
 

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I think Governor Pence is going to be Trump's VP pick. I was watching him on one of the networks during an interview and I like the guy already. Said he grew up in a strong Democratic family, and that the Democratic party is nothing at all like the party was when he was growing up. He pretty much finds contention with Obama on every item I also find contention with.
The GOP doesn't want Pence to be his VP, he is running for reelection for governor in Indiana, and that would leave that race wide open in a state that voted for Obama in 2008. Personally, I think it is down to Gingrich and Christie.
 

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Why can't the entire spineless, Socialist Republican Party just completely die to be replaces by the libertarian party, it would never be perfect, but anything would be better than the two party system we have now.
Because only 10-20% of Republicans actually believe in smaller government. The rest just want a conservative version of bigger government, you know the kind that wants to ban abortions, restrict gay marriage, criminalize drug use, and have a 'war on terror'.
 

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The rest just want a conservative version of bigger government, you know the kind that wants to ban abortions, restrict gay marriage, criminalize drug use, and have a 'war on terror'.
All the things that have no impact on my life. What ever happened to "each to his own beliefs"?

to answer another question... While I'm not real fond of Christie or Gingrich No it would not cause be to vote LP again this election. I know a lot of other LP voters that are switching for this election as well just because of the Democrat wearing an LP cloaking device they have for VP.
 

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The GOP doesn't want Pence to be his VP, he is running for reelection for governor in Indiana, and that would leave that race wide open in a state that voted for Obama in 2008. Personally, I think it is down to Gingrich and Christie.
and ... I called it.

Pence is not running for re-election. He just announced it.
 

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Mr. Trump carried 36 states and secured about 1,450 pledged delegates, more than the 1,237 who make a majority under current GOP rules. By the time all the ballots were cast, he received 44% of the popular vote.

Then again, Mitt Romney won 52% in 2012, John McCain 47% in 2008, and George W. Bush 61% in 2000, so Mr. Trump’s plurality support is the weakest of any modern GOP nominee.
Then again Mitt Romney only had to compete against Ron Paul through most of the primary. John McCain only against 4. G.W. Bush only 1. Trump was up against 12 for most of the primary. So it seems that the move you have to split the voters up the less percentage each gets so this is very misleading. I am glad Pence is the VP of choice so I can vote for him instead of Trump.
 

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Like the Republican Establishment did good with getting behind Dole, McCain, and Romney. Right.

How about a candidate that the people get behind? Maybe the fact that the Republican Establishment is opposing Trump is indicative of his electability.
 

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