Down with Czars...

Discussion in 'Off-topic Political' started by BG_Atl, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. BG_Atl

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    Republicans introduce bill to eliminate presidential 'czars'
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ntroduce-bill-to-eliminate-presidential-czars

    It's about time someone did :righton:

    Oh... they did... well maybe this time..
     
  2. EJR914

    EJR914 Cheezburger Operator

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    That is great news! :righton: :applause:

    Now if we can only get a bill to get rid of all the other unconstitutional bureaucracies that our federal government has created!
     

  3. Puffyfish

    Puffyfish New Member

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    If Obama knew wtf he was doing he would not need all of them, a few I can see but 39 :screwy:
     
  4. spector

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    Does anyone else have a problem with using the word "czar" in american government?

    The first time I heard that term as a quasi-official title, I was shocked. The word MEANS supreme monarch or emperor. It's ridiculous that we even allow it to be used, even in jest, in reference to our own government. Let failed empires and socialist states use it. Oh, wait. :-k
     
  5. dcannon1

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    Yeah I was a little shocked given the connotations it has. Why not just Director, Advisor, Chief, anything else really?
     
  6. EJR914

    EJR914 Cheezburger Operator

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    Exactly! We shouldn't have ONE person in our government that could even be construed as a CZAR!

    Spector, I think you nailed it. We are a failed empire, and we are a socialist/Marxist National Government. Its taken 140 years to get to this place.

    We are a Socialist country, I just think that we are all in denial. Its taken 140 years for us to get to this point, after we became a National government of one, and did away with our State and Federal Federation.

    The thing that people cannot seem to grasp and get a grip on, is that we were bound to get here with a National government. If there would have been no Civil War, no Reconstruction, and no 14th amendment, we wouldn't BE here right now!

    We wouldn't be living under an Unconstitutional National government that still protects its unlawful superiority through government intimidation and duress.

    We can thank the Radical Republicans in Congress who were in office after the Civil War for the Socialism/Marxism that has all but destroyed the America of 1789. Without a National Government, we would have seriously been able to slow down the clock on Socialism and Marxism, at least in a State like Georgia where we still have a lot of Conservative people.

    State's like California would probably be just about the same or a little worse, due to its big cities and overall liberal majority there.

    Instead, we have a Socialist/Marxist National government, that is dictating to ALL people and ALL Things, what it can and cannot do. We, human beings, are but objects to our government. America was NOT established to be like this. This is a government hi-jack of our Founder's country, and it happened before you and I were even a glint in anyone's eye. 140 years ago.

    We need to repeal the 14th amendment, Reconstruction Acts and take our Federation back. We live under an unlawful, unprovable form of National Government that is directly Unconstitutional.
     
  7. JDcollins78

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    EJR914, I have to say your posts concerning the 14A and Reconstruction have really gotten me to thinking (more than usual!). I have really enjoyed watching the videos you posted of John Ainsworth and have shared one of them on my Facebook profile. While I don't always agree with your political views on every issue, I have to thank you for sharing. At least you are honest and know what you believe.
     
  8. EJR914

    EJR914 Cheezburger Operator

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    Thank you for the kind words, JDcollins78. I have to say it took me almost an entire year for what I heard John Ainsworth say in public at a political rally, to me checking out his internet videos and website, for me to finally do enough research that I started to believe what he was saying as real.

    When I first heard him speak in person at the rally, I thought he was full of bullcrap. I literally thought he was crazy and he was lying about the entire thing. A BS artist. After doing a lot of fact-checking and research, I see that he actually has a point.

    To bad I disagree with almost everything he says politically, but at the same time, he believes in freedom and liberty. Literally, if We the People want something in the form of freedom, we should be able to have it through our State governments. That is what he believes. We shouldn't have a National government dictating to all of us, what we can't do, what we must do, what we must buy, what we can't buy or own, what we can possess and what we cannot possess, ect. Basically, he wants us to follow the Bill of Rights, just as it is said, in plain English. No, Socialist/Marxist or Authoritarian "interpretation" of the Constitution. After all, all of the laws created in this country have to be rooted in the words stated in the Constitution. Today, we are so far away from that its not even funny. This is because we got away from lawful, provable government with a Federation, and we live under a National government today.

    If you're reading this for the first time, please understand that John Ainsworth and myself are not Secessionist or members of the League of the South. In fact, the League of the South and Secessionist HATE John Ainsworth, because he doesn't want any of that. Just like me, he wants a PEACEFUL restoration of our lawful, provable Federalist government, he wants our State's Rights to be re-instated, and he wants us to all return to State citizens. The way our country was designed in 1789, and the way it stayed until 1861, the start of the Civil War. The 14th amendment were forced upon the States after the war, in times of peace, and States accepted it at different times after the war.

    My entire point to all this is.... prove him wrong. I've tried and I cannot. There are plenty of arguments AGAINST what he is saying, but the point is that the facts are still the facts. These things that he says are provable and are facts.

    Not only does John Ainsworth say that the 14th Amendment was the Nationalization of State citizens and the subjugation of the States' citizens, but the Radical Republicans of the post-Civil War time of Reconstruction such as James G. Blaine and Thaddeus Stevens ARTICULATED this, and it is a provable fact. They were not ashamed of what they had done, they literally were doing what THEY thought was right. After all, the path to Hell is paved with good intentions. Those tyrants literally thought they were doing the right thing and they had very good intentions, or so they thought. Much like how FDR forced the Commerce Clause decision and Social Security on us, and Obama and the other Democrats and RINOs forced Obamacare (NATIONALIZE Health Care) on us. Anytime you here the word, "National," run. Literally. National take-over of the banking system, National take-over of the car companies, National take-over of this and that, ect. Its a bad thing.

    The Radical Republican in Congress at the time literally believed that State's Rights were a "pestilent heresy" that must be destroyed. They literally believed that the Nationalization of State citizens was the RIGHT thing to do. They were not embarrassed by this belief one bit. In fact, they stated verbally and in the written word these facts numerous times. They were literally "setting the record straight" about State's Rights. They wanted them destroyed.

    Also, look into the Federalist Papers and other writings by our Founding Fathers, especially the one from James Madison, where he literally states that the Constitution DID beget a Federation, and that a National Government and National citizens were strictly Unconstitutional, and that our country SHOULD never be a National Government. A government of One. And he went on to say further that our Constitution simply does not ALLOW For a National government, and to do so would be Unconstitutional.

    Well the Radical Republicans such as James G. Blaine and Thaddeus Stevens were literally tyrants, must like Obama, FDR, and a lot of other politicians and presidents, but they were some of the WORST. They literally beget an Unconstitutional Government on the American people, and Obama, FDR, and Woodrow Wilson literally just were standing on the shoulder of giant tyrants.

    This is the reason that nothing ever gets better. This is why in 1994, the Republicans said, VOTE US IN! WE'LL FIX EVERYTHING! Instead of fixing everything, everything literally began to speed up. The same is true with the Republican victories of 2010.

    Is what the entire American population doesn't understand is that it doesn't matter. We can keep doing what they tell us to do, but it will never fix anything! We must go back, push back the clock on our freedoms. We must repeal the 14th amendment and the Reconstruction Acts and turn the clock back on our Freedoms. On our Liberties.

    Do you know why nobody knows this stuff? Because its simply NOT TAUGHT! What are we taught about the Civil War, Reconstruction, and the 14th amendment in public high school? What does the media currently say was the purpose of the 14th amendment?

    High school rather teaches in innuendo, half-truths, and just flat out lying by leaving out the facts, or telling us a revision of history. Just basically sometimes lying.

    In public school, high school and college, I learned that the Civil War was #1 over Slavery. Reconstruction was a good thing because it was the North trying to help the South Rebuild after it was ravished and burned to the ground during the Civil War. I was told that the 14th amendment's only purpose was to give the newly freed black slaves 100% citizenship, so they could all be counted in whole, and not 3/5th of a person.

    What the media KEEPS saying about the 14th amendment, mirrors exactly what I was told in high school and college. The 14th amendment's only purpose was to give the newly freed black slaves 100% citizenship. I heard it just today on Fox News (Fox and Friends) from Steve Doocy, the Fox News Anchor. I hear it repeated on every news station, including FOX almost daily. That includes MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ABC, ect.

    How in the world would we know any difference? We are not taught or told the truth. Yet we literally have James G. Blaine saying this about State's Rights and the Nationalization of citizenship.

    Emphasis mine. http://www.dailypaul.com/node/141636

    The fact remains that the North and Washington's view of the war was that it was simply to restore the Constitution and to literally re-unite the country. After two years of War, the Northern troops began to become weary of the War, and around that time, Abolitionist had really gained a lot of steam, and the new battle cry of the North became, freeing the slaves. A very NOBLE cause, I might add, but it changed the original "cause" of the war. In fact, President Andrew Johnson and President Abraham Lincoln really didn't care one way or the other about freeing slaves, they just wanted to re-unite the country. Also, a noble cause. Well when ending slavery picked up so much steam, and the Abolitionist really picked up, Slavery became the war-cry. The main objective of the war, at least at first, was to restore the Union, not slavery. In fact, every country in the world ended slavery without a war, including Great Britain, who paid slave owner's and reimbursed them their losses when they freed slaves. Something that was discussed and introduced into our Federal Legislature, but went nowhere.

    Then once the war was over, in times of peace, the Radical Republicans saw their chance to remove the pestilent heresy know as State's Rights, and subjugate the State citizens, and turn everyone into National citizens, literally annulling the States' governments. Also, the 14th amendment is proved to have been for the White Man as well, and not just for the newly freed Slaves. It was to force all Persons to become National citizens. Not just the freed Black Slaves.

    Emphasis mine. http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/Fourteenth_Section_2.pdf

    Here they are telling us exactly what they are doing and they are not ashamed in the least. They are setting things straight in their minds. They thought they were doing the right thing by annulling State governments and subjugating State citizens. They articulated this fact. They literally told us they were annulling the States' governments, subjugating their citizens, and giving us all a National Government and National citizenship.

    Well here is what our Founders, including James Madison thought about National government and National citizens, and why it is completely wrong for a lawful, Constitutionally-held Federation, or State and Federal government.

    http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders ... h8s27.html

    Emphasis mine. Please read the entire page.

    He also said this at the same link:

    He's also is basically saying that we have a little bit of both in our country, and the Constitution allows this, meaning we will do things like declare war as a National government. However, the 14th amendment actually annulled our State governments in entirety, and today, State government only exists in our minds. There really is no such thing as State's Rights anymore, and the State's try to flex their rights, but those rights are only the rights that our National government allows them to have. Like our GWL and our Driver's license. The Federal government could regulate that as well, but they choose not to, they literally allow the State governments to do that. However, as John Ainsworth has proven, since he's failed to have a driver's license for 13 years, and has never been convicted of the offense, yet. The State literally refuses to prove its lawfulness, because they know they can't, and the 14th amendment annulled their State government. In fact, all State Governments actually had to send a Letter of Surrender to our new National government, stating that their State governments were now subject to anything the new National government wanted. Our States were actually surrendered under military duress in times of peace. That duress and intimidation still holds true today, and it must be maintained as such, as it was created under such means.

    In conclusion, James Madison said this:

    From the same link on the Federalist Papers.

    Well we no longer have a Federal government, a Federation, or State governments, we literally just have a National government, given to us by the 14th amendment, as we were all made National citizens. Our State citizenship were literally revoked, and are gone.

    A State citizen cannot vote in our National election. Just go look at a Voter's Registration card. If you do the steps to become a State citizen, you will get a nice letter from your Board of Elections that say you're right to vote has been revoked.

    You can only then vote in your State Republic as a State citizen. You can literally get together with a group of like-minded people, re-instate the Georgia government of 1789, vote in the election, collect taxes, and you can be elected into positions within the State government if you so choose.

    Its some crazy stuff, but it is a reality. You will likely get a visit from some law enforcement officers with a warning if you choose to take the steps to deny your National citizenship and become a State citizen, such as my ancestors were. They were State citizens of South Carolina, as that is where both sides of my family resided pre-1861.

    Its time to turn the clock back on our National government and return all of us to State citizens and a Federation, where we have both a National and Federal government. We would also have lawful State governments as well. We'd all be State citizens again, as well. The way it should be.

    It would get rid of "Anchor Babies" and every State could decide what it wanted to do about citizenship, it would get rid of Nation-wide abortions, and the States could then decide if they want to allow abortions within their borders, and the same with prayer in school and putting the 10 Commandments or any other religious thing outside of a court house, ect.

    Its all interesting stuff, and its certainly worth a look.
     
  9. BSCLibertarian

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  10. EJR914

    EJR914 Cheezburger Operator

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    Did you read it all, though? :wink:
     
  11. BSCLibertarian

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    oh yeah, every word and every word of every link :neener:





    just messin' w/ ya'
     
  12. EJR914

    EJR914 Cheezburger Operator

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    Figures... freakin' Libertarian! :D