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Boy, this a tough one. If you draw on the real Swat team, you're as good as dead. If you kill one and live, you'll face charges. But then this happens (from today's news):

Lookout For Men Posing As SWAT Officers
(WSB Radio) Henry County Police are looking for two men who barged into a couple's home in the middle of the night, posing as SWAT officers.
Lt. Jason Bolton tells WSB's Jennifer Griffies the couple was asleep at their home on Panola Road, when the men broke into their home just before 1 o'clock Monday morning.

"The residents at that location, a male and a female, were asleep, and woke up to the sound of voices inside their home. The female got up and encountered two white males that had entered their home," said Bolton.

"Both of them were wearing black shirts with SWAT printed on it, as well as black stocking masks. They were both armed with handguns. They claimed to be members of the Henry County Police SWAT Team, and said that they had a warrant for the male subject at that location," said Bolton.

Bolton says the woman managed to call 9-1-1 when the suspects were taking her fiance outside in handcuffs.

The suspects fled when they saw the real officers arriving on the scene.

Bolton says so far, police have not determined a motive.

"It's quite bizarre, and we're trying to figure it out ourselves right now," said Bolton.

"We're investigating it as an armed robbery, a home invasion-armed robbery. Even though nothing was taken, you've got two armed assailants enter someone's home in the middle of the night. We're looking at it very seriously," said Bolton.

Bolton says they're hoping to get fingerprints off of the handcuffs that the suspects left behind in their haste to get away.
 

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Unfortunately impersonating police officers / SWAT teams is not an uncommon tactic. It's just one more unintended consequence of using no-knock entries in the middle of the night by law enforcement. Below is a link to a great paper by the CATO Institute describing the growth of the paramilitarization of US law enforcement and its adverse effects (e.g., innocent people killed, arrested, humiliated, etc. when the SWAT team raids the wrong house).

It's long but a good read.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdf
 

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Sorry I just posted a thread on this this morning with more details.

You have to wonder what the heck are they thinking. Or as Bill Engelvall says " Here's your sign"
 

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jmorin said:
Unfortunately impersonating police officers / SWAT teams is not an uncommon tactic. It's just one more unintended consequence of using no-knock entries in the middle of the night by law enforcement. Below is a link to a great paper by the CATO Institute describing the growth of the paramilitarization of US law enforcement and its adverse effects (e.g., innocent people killed, arrested, humiliated, etc. when the SWAT team raids the wrong house).

It's long but a good read.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdf
jmorin, I just realized that your paper and the Reason magazine article I recommended above on the Cory Maye case are written by the same person from the Cato Institute.
 

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I presented this case to my political science class, and the majority sided with me that the no-knock warrants are a problem.
 

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jmorin said:
Unfortunately impersonating police officers / SWAT teams is not an uncommon tactic. It's just one more unintended consequence of using no-knock entries in the middle of the night by law enforcement.
I would add that it's also a problem that police officers are now impersinating robbers.
Take off the masks boys, you're not the "Lone Ranger"
 

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The Reason article is a good read.
Mississippi’s forensic pathology system is, in the words of one medical examiner I spoke with, “a mess.†The state has no official examiners. Instead, prosecutors solicit them from a pool of vaguely official private practitioners to perform autopsies in homicide cases. Steven Hayne, who performed the autopsy on Jones, appears to be a favorite. In the words of Leroy Reddick, a respected medical examiner in Alabama, “Every prosecutor in Mississippi knows that if you don’t like the results you got from an autopsy, you can always take the body to Dr. Hayne.†Defense attorneys in the state bristle at Hayne’s name. In a case last year in Starkville, he testified that he could tell by the wounds in a corpse that there were two hands on the gun that fired the bullet, consistent with the prosecution’s theory that a man and his sister team jointly pulled the trigger. Several medical examiners have told me such a claim is preposterous.
 

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kkennett said:
(from today's news):

Lookout For Men Posing As SWAT Officers

"We're investigating it as an armed robbery, a home invasion-armed robbery. Even though nothing was taken, you've got two armed assailants enter someone's home in the middle of the night. We're looking at it very seriously," said Bolton.

Bolton says they're hoping to get fingerprints off of the handcuffs that the suspects left behind in their haste to get away.
doesn't this sounds more like kidnapping then robbery?
 

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I bet they find out the two fake cops knew the victim, and wanted to punish him for something.
 

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[quote="Malum Prohibitum":3txzghmc]A better article from Reason magazine.

http://reason.com/news/show/36869.html

UPDATE: This article, though a little lengthy, is a must read.
Update to the Update.

Cory Maye gets a new trial[/quote:3txzghmc]

I read through a lot of available material and it is great that things finally seem to be turning around for Mr. Maye. Is the new trial going to be a capital trial as well? or can the state bargain with Mr. Maye at this point? It seems that another capital conviction will be unlikely given his new, very experienced legal representation. Will anyone speculate?
 

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jgullock said:
"After 10 years of incarceration, and seven years after a jury sentenced him to die, 30-year-old Cory Maye will soon be going home."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/0 ... 88454.html
Except that this guy is now a convicted felon for standing his ground and defending his infant daughter from what, allegedly, he believed to be an intruder. I am all for sticking it to people that willfully commit a murder, against anyone, not just law enforcement, but this case highlights just how severe the problem with certain members of law enforcement not understand their statutory obligation to do their job within the confines of the law. This will be far from the last problem that we have with these botched drug raids, and raids of the homes of people not involved in illegal practices.

As a matter of fact, I believe it is high time(pardon the pun) to rid us of all of this prohibition. The War on Drugs is a great piece of evidence on just how big a failure malum prohibitum laws have been, and in showing government continues to use these laws to legislate away behavior that the legislators, and/or their supporters, do not agree with.

If legislators really want to end the profitability of criminal activity, then the best way to do that is to take away the profitability of activity that, if it were not "illegal", would not be profitable in the first place. Alcohol is one of the biggest examples of how and why prohibition has never worked, and will never work, unless you are a criminal and want to make a crap ton of money.
 

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Montezuma said:
jgullock said:
"After 10 years of incarceration, and seven years after a jury sentenced him to die, 30-year-old Cory Maye will soon be going home."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/0 ... 88454.html
Except that this guy is now a convicted felon for standing his ground and defending his infant daughter from what, allegedly, he believed to be an intruder. I am all for sticking it to people that willfully commit a murder, against anyone, not just law enforcement, but this case highlights just how severe the problem with certain members of law enforcement not understand their statutory obligation to do their job within the confines of the law. This will be far from the last problem that we have with these botched drug raids, and raids of the homes of people not involved in illegal practices.

As a matter of fact, I believe it is high time(pardon the pun) to rid us of all of this prohibition. The War on Drugs is a great piece of evidence on just how big a failure malum prohibitum laws have been, and in showing government continues to use these laws to legislate away behavior that the legislators, and/or their supporters, do not agree with.

If legislators really want to end the profitability of criminal activity, then the best way to do that is to take away the profitability of activity that, if it were not "illegal", would not be profitable in the first place. Alcohol is one of the biggest examples of how and why prohibition has never worked, and will never work, unless you are a criminal and want to make a crap ton of money.
Great post, Sir! :righton:
 
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