Discharging a firearm in Barrow County

Discussion in 'GA Laws and Politics' started by Glock23-4-Me, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    While older condenser units tend to be a bit more noisy you can still hear most of them more than 50' away. The noise from the fan blowing the the air can't be silenced.
     
  2. RedDawnTheMusical

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    Yeah this one has a dying compressor that makes a heck of a noise. The problem will eventually solve itself when it dies. It is an older unit too, so he's looking at a new unit that uses the newer gas and a new evap coil in his air handler.
     

  3. Savannah Dan

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    Bobby must think he lives in a Democracy.
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

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    You do realize you are posting on a thread that is eight years old, right?

    Do you live in Barrow County? Is this an actual problem for you, or were you responding hypothetically?

    By 50 feet, do you mean that they are shooting fifty feet from where you are sitting? That is really, really close, like two and a half pickups length away . . .
     
  5. Bobbie

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    Gentlemen, do I believe I live in s democracy. No. Do I believe I live in a country governed by laws? Yes. You say this law is impossible to enforce. Then petition to remove it from the books. You say air conditioners and lawn mowers prove the law is unenforceable. Then I say have them tuned or replaced. If people do not wish to do so, fine them. Excuses can be made to not obey many laws. The stop sign is unnecessary. That private property is in the way of my short cut. I just sat in my bedroom for an hour while someone more than fifty feet away from me shot off a very loud gun. How do you all like fireworks in your backyard while you are trying to sleep? There are gun ranges in this county. Use them. Sorry if you are inconvienenced.
     
  6. Bobbie

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    I’m sorry. I did not answer all questions. I did not realize responding to an eight year old thread was trolling. This thread was a topic i wanted to address. I am not a he, but a she. I would not report a poor mans air conditioner. I might try to help him if possible. I do live in Barrow County. I do resent building noises in new construction. However new construction is temporary but that probably should be addressed by changing that in the laws. Someone sitting behind my house pulling a trigger over and over is not temporary and is delberate and unnecessary. Whoever is shooting behind my house is more than fifty feet but can be heard as if they are sitting outside my window. And finally, I am not a troll. I am respectful to everyone.
     
  7. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    In 14 months, I'm going to write my reply.
     
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  8. Fallschirmjäger

    Fallschirmjäger I watch the watchers

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    I'm a big enough man to admit I was wrong. It wasn't 'ever again' it was only 14 months.
     
  9. Malum Prohibitum

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    The code has been rewritten and is like 6 pages long now. It covers exceptions for some of the things mentioned, like lawn equipment. No exceptions for shooting. I think that makes Barrow County, the entire county, a No Shooting zone. Am I right?
     
  10. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Sounds like another thing for the "janitors" to fix come next Jan.
     
  11. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    It seems that you think you may be able to solve what appears to be a problem with your gun shooting neighbor by posting your complaint here. You won't. We can't. Have you approached him to try to reach an accommodation that will satisfy both his right to shoot on his property and your need for peaceful rest at certain times? Isn't that your primary concern?
     
  12. ICP_Juggalo

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    Bwhahahahahahaha! That was golden!
     
  13. Aleksfoxtrot

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    Sorry to also resurrect this. But it's not to troll. Does anyone know how late someone could discharge a firearm in barrow? Some friends and I want to do a little low light shooting but dont want to violate noise ordinances. I'm guessing the way this is written the answer is going to be "legally? Technically NEVER in barrow county. " haha
    I was just wondering if there was a Georgia law that protected the right to shoot a firearm up until a certain time I guess. I've searched and havent been able to find anything.
    Sorry for resurrecting this, I just thought it fit best on this feed.
    Also... Bobbie the ordinance isn't talking someone firing a gun 50 feet away. Its saying a noise can't audibly extend 50 feet from its source. Which is clearly ridiculous firearms or not.
    I know an old topic guys. Sorry.
     
  14. Nemo

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    Bobbie? You came back? We missed you so!

    Nemo :cool:
     
  15. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    I think we need such a law, better written than the lame confusing language that is in the state preemption law right now.
    OCGA 16-11-173 sets out a general rule of state level preemption that says cities and counties (& any other level of government besides the General Assembly itself) cannot have any restrictions on the carry, sales, possession, or use of firearms. But then it throws in an exception -- it says except cities and counties may have ordinances that reasonably restrict or prohibit the discharge of firearms.

    So, does the adverb "reasonably" modify both the words "restrict" and "prohibit"? Must the local government only be reasonable when they are restricting shooting but they could unreasonably forbid it?

    Also, I don't think this statement is really worded strongly enough to effectively preempt anti-shooting ordinances or noise ordinances or environmental ordinances that have the effect of banning target practice and shooting for sport.

    Georgia follows the home rule doctrine for cities and counties; it lets them make their own laws on any subject that is not forbidden by the legislature. This is a very strong and well respected doctrine in our legal system. (Consider how our governor Kemp recently caved-in and agreed that mayors of cities across Georgia have the power to contradict him on COVID-19 precautions such as mask wearing or ordering the closure of nonessential businesses.)

    Because "home rule" is well entrenched in our law, and because the current preemption statute is so poorly worded when it comes to the issue of shooting firearms, I don't know if the courts would rule in our favor if it were fully litigated in our court system.

    I say we need the legislature to amend the law to be crystal clear of its intention to strip cities and counties of this power of self rule and self governance.

    Like the legislature did as to fireworks a few years ago: they were quite clear about that preemption, and every city and county got the message! Firework use is legal and even noise ordinances that don't specifically name fireworks will still be unenforceable as applied to fireworks shooting prior to a certain hour of the night.
     
  16. gunsmoker

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    Thank you.
    And now it's been 15 months.
    Close enuff.
     
  17. ICP_Juggalo

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    I can tell you that I've been waiting with pregnant anticipation for 15 whole months for your reply.