Sheriff, I really appreciate the time you are taking to offer responses to some of our questions. It's great to have the perspective of a law enforcement professional on the forum.Open carry??? Honestly I can't imagine why someone thinks it is a good idea. Why let someone who has evil on their mind see who his obvious targets are??? I think it is a bad idea, but I don't care. If we get a call we will check it out. It happens all the time here and no one seems to care
You asked him for his opinion, and he gave it! And his opinion seems to line up with what I know about it and what the AG has opined. He doesn't pass the laws, he just enforces them!GAGunOwner said:As for the "public gathering" law I'm going to have to respectfully disagree and assert once again that it is entirely too vague and draconian in nature.
This question is not very clear. Do you mean people like judges and military? The statute says they are exempt from 126 through 128, which would include 127.1, except that 127.1 was passed after 130. On the other hand, 130 was amended just this year. There is no case law interpreting this exact statutory provision.GAGunOwner said:One more question about the exempted people (16-11-130). Do you consider the non-LEOs to be exempt from the "school zones" section of the law or basically just the "public gathering" part of the law?
UNOFFICIAL OPINION U97-13
To: Judge May 9, 1997
Probate Court of Houston County
Re: Under Georgia law, active duty military personnel are exempted from the requirement of a firearms permit. The exemption is not limited to the performance of military duty. These personnel may, upon request, obtain a firearms permit if otherwise qualified. Their dependents may be issued a permit if otherwise qualified only upon establishing residency in this state. Law enforcement officers are also exempt from the requirement to obtain a permit.
This unofficial opinion is issued in response to the questions you have raised concerning the proper application of O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-130 to military and law enforcement personnel. For clarity, I have set forth each of your questions and responded seriatim.
First, you have inquired if active duty military personnel are exempt from the permit requirements. The exemptions are set forth in O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-130. I note that this Code Section exempts certain persons from "Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128." Thus, persons so exempt are exempted not only from the requirement of a permit to carry a firearm (O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-128), but are also exempt from the provisions regarding the carrying of concealed weapons (O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-126), carrying deadly weapons to or at public gatherings (O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-127), and carrying weapons within school safety zones or at school functions (O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-127.1) But see O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-127.1(c)(3), which appears to limit the exemption to persons actually participating in military training programs.
Under prior versions of this statute, it was clear that the exemption applied only to the performance of official duties. See, e.g., Talley v. State, 129 Ga. App. 479, 481 (1973); 1987 Op. Att'y Gen. U87-28. However, at that time the exemptions applied to these persons while engaged in the pursuit of official duties or when authorized by law. Since that time, the statute has been amended. Official Code of Georgia Annotated Â§ 16-11-130(a) now provides that the exemptions apply to "persons . . . employed in the offices listed below." Persons in the military service of the State of Georgia or of the United States are among those so listed. O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-130(a)(3). Thus, it is my unofficial opinion that active duty military personnel are exempt under Georgia law from the requirement for a firearms permit.
Secondly, you have asked if the exemption is limited to the performance of military duties on the base. As noted above, under the current version of the statute, persons so employed are exempt; the statute no longer limits the scope of the exemption to the performance of official duties. Thus, my response to your question is in the negative.
In your third question, you ask if active duty military personnel may, notwithstanding the exemption, apply for and be issued a firearms permit. Permits may be issued only to a resident of this state whose domicile is in the county of application. O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-129(a). Generally, military personnel are not residents of Georgia and thus they were not eligible for the permits under a former version of the statute. See 1976 Op. Att'y Gen. U76-71. Under the current statute, however, an active duty member of the armed services who, although not a domiciliary of this state, resides in the county or on a military reservation in the county may nevertheless obtain a firearms permit if otherwise eligible. O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-129(a). Thus, it is my unofficial opinion that a member of the armed services may, provided that he is otherwise eligible for the permit, apply for and be issued a firearms permit notwithstanding the fact that he is not domiciled in Georgia.
Your fourth question concerns the residency requirements for an active duty military applicant. Under the plain language of the statute, a member of the armed services may, if otherwise eligible, obtain a permit if he resides in the county of application or on a military reservation located in whole or in part in that county at the time of application.
Fifth, you inquire regarding the eligibility of a spouse for a permit. As noted supra, military personnel (and their dependents) are generally not residents of Georgia and thus the dependents are not eligible for the permits. See 1976 Op. Att'y Gen. U76-71. However, this is not an ironclad rule; a member of the armed services may choose to establish a domicile in Georgia and, if this is done, the member's dependents would be eligible for a permit if otherwise qualified. In making a determination of residency, the Probate Judge should consider such factors as payment of Georgia income or property taxes, place of residence, registration to vote, registration of automobiles, whether the dependent is licensed to drive by this state, and other similar factors. See, e.g., 1981 Op. Att'y Gen. U81-26. If satisfied that the dependent has established residency in this state, the Court may consider the application for a firearms permit.
Finally, you have inquired about the scope of the exemption from the concealed weapon, public gathering, school zone, and license provisions applicable to full-time peace officers. Peace officers are exempted from these provisions by O.C.G.A. Â§ 16-11-130(a)(1). The scope of the exemption is the same as that for active duty military personnel. Thus, it is my unofficial opinion that the exemption for peace officers is not limited to their duty hours.
In sum, it is my unofficial opinion that active duty military personnel are exempt from the requirement of a firearms license. The exemption is not limited to military activity on the military reservation. Although not domiciled in this state, active duty military personnel may nevertheless obtain a firearms license if they are otherwise qualified. Dependents of military personnel are not eligible for a firearms license unless the Probate Judge first determines that they have established domicile in that county. Full-time peace officers are entitled to the same exemption as are active duty military personnel.
NEAL B. CHILDERS
Senior Assistant Attorney General
But that is the question the AG was asked!GAGunOwner said:But if you are talking about the AG Opinion that says "Active duty", that one, I'm afraid won't do much good. This is often misunderstood. Some LEOs, ones that I've actually spoken with, think that only "active duty" military are exempt, and not people in the Guard, reserves, etc.