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Well I thought we had heard all we needed on this one. But up it pops again.
The Etowah Water and Sewer Authority is trying to obtain 10,000 acres in Dawson County, owned by the city of Atlanta, for a reservoir.

Water and Sewer Authority General Manager Brooke Anderson says the authority hopes to form a partnership with a private company to fund the estimated $650 million cost of a reservoir, treatment plant and pipelines.
Thankfully the City of Atlanta said no, they still have a dream of an airport there(I bet Big Canoe would stop that in it's tracks).

This reservoir was the reason my old Senator stepped down.
Five days before Pearson announced he was not running, the AJC reported Pearson sponsored a bill that would have benefited a client of his partner in an economic development consulting business.

The legislation would have let private developers build reservoirs with state approval without having to set up a partnership with local governments or water authorities.
Last fall, Republic Resources of Atlanta abandoned talks with a water authority in Pearson’s district and set out to develop a $650 million reservoir in Dawson County without it.
At this point y'all are wondering why I am bringing all this up....Well the Atlanta Tract(The major part of the Dawson Forest) is the old Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory.
This property over the years has been shut down, from time to time, because of radiation levels. I don't think this land would make suitable drinking water. Here are some more pictures.

Here are a couple of videos

The Etowah Water and Sewer Authority They have some nerve with their tag line "Excellence in Every Drop".
 

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I find this very neat in a way. The video you posted I've looked for a while for but never could find any images of the actual site. I live 5 minutes from the nuclear site. As for the water I've been told that it was already being used for drinking water. this is the exact same water that ends up going under HWY 53 and as far as those rangers go its ok, I knew better but thought I'd talk to them about it anyways. Thanks for the video though, it gave me a better idea of what the facility looked like at the time of operation, I had my own ideas but i was obviously wrong.
 

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Given the typical nature of government bureaucracy and the fighting inherent in water issues these days, I'd say there is little chance in anything happening on that land for years to come.
 

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AV8R said:
Given the typical nature of government bureaucracy and the fighting inherent in water issues these days, I'd say there is little chance in anything happening on that land for years to come.
I completely agree. Dawson on the other hand would benefit greatly from it if it was an actual good source of water.
 

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It really depends on exactly where the reservoir would be. The irradiated portion of Dawson forest is fairly small. See the middle of this Google Map: http://goo.gl/maps/xewO

You can barely see the circular outline in the trees where the perimeter fence used to be. The irradiated (or, what used to be) portion is a smaller area inside this perimeter. And note that the river passes right through the middle of it.
 

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yeah I've looked at the maps. I wish they had a better lay out of it though. What I was saying is if it was determined that the water was a good source given the polution and stuff that goes into it that it could really benefit Dawson. Then again they have made confusing coments on the radiation levels. If it wasn't active then they should've taken that fence down a long time ago. But some say its for safety while others still claim that its still active inside the cooling cells. I've never seen any crazy animals out there but I've heard of friends getting dizzy or nausea setting in. Cool place though I kayak that river alot.
 

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because of radiation levels. I don't think this land would make suitable drinking water.
Gonna chime in here because radiation scares people and I happen to know a thing or two about the subject of radiation. The radiation levels there are essentially the same as what I'm exposed to right now sitting in my office on the third floor of this building. The highest measured radiation in the area in the past 30 years was 90mrem/year which is practically nothing (source: http://www.gaepd.org/Files_PDF/gaenviro ... 02_dfw.pdf ) and of that 90mr/year only about 5% of it was from man-made sources, the rest you get in your backyard just as much as you would there. I've personally received more than 90mr in a single day (day, not year) before and was within exposure limits. The average person in the U.S. receives about 300mrem/year without being exposed to any source other than nature. If you camped in that area eating off the land and drinking from the river you would receive less radiation than people who sunbath a few times a year in Florida. Water samples are even nicer too, absolutely no levels above naturally occurring detected.

Having spent 12 years in nuclear power trust me, nothing to be scared of with the radiation levels in Dawson Forest or the water passing through it.
 

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Friend of mine worked on the nuc plane project

General Dynamics, Ft Worth Tx

they used to drive a reactor around town at night and measure the radiation at different distances from it

plane was not feasible if you had enough shielding to allow you to reuse the pilot

seems they could have worked this out on paper, but I suppose the whole thing was a stimulus project
 

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yeah I've looked at the maps. I wish they had a better lay out of it though. What I was saying is if it was determined that the water was a good source given the polution and stuff that goes into it that it could really benefit Dawson. Then again they have made confusing coments on the radiation levels. If it wasn't active then they should've taken that fence down a long time ago. But some say its for safety while others still claim that its still active inside the cooling cells. I've never seen any crazy animals out there but I've heard of friends getting dizzy or nausea setting in. Cool place though I kayak that river alot.
I don't think the radiation levels are anything to worry about. The main concern with people getting into the fenced off building is the dust inside, which can be dangerous if inhaled. But, there are no real radiation hot spots left out there.

I'm not sure how a reservoir there would benefit Dawson County, other than the obvious scenic and fishing aspects.
 

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Ughhh.... since I'm relatively new to GA, I wondered what the signifigance of the land was.... until I read the last part of your post. OUCH!!!!!!!!
 

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I'm not sure how a reservoir there would benefit Dawson County, other than the obvious scenic and fishing aspects.
Mayor Kasim Reed is now in talks with two groups about holding on to the land and forming a partnership to build a 2,000-acre reservoir and sell water to the rest of the region at a rate of about 100 million gallons a day.

Georgia is one year into a three-year deadline set by U.S. District Judge Paul Magnuson to work out a water-sharing agreement with Alabama and Florida, which rely on the downstream flow from Atlanta. Magnuson ruled Atlanta is illegally tapping Lake Lanier for drinking water and has threatened to cut off access to that source if the states don’t strike an accord. Without Lanier, the metro area could lose access to as much as 250 million gallons of water a day.

A Dawson Forest reservoir could greatly compensate for that, said Anderson of the Etowah River and Sewer Authority.
Well this article states that Shoal Creek would be dammed. So that means anything to the south of the Etowah wouldn't be affected.

Both groups plan to build the reservoir by damming Shoal Creek. The proposed reservoir will cover roughly three square miles of the 15-square-mile property.
 

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...Then again they have made confusing coments on the radiation levels. If it wasn't active then they should've taken that fence down a long time ago. But some say its for safety while others still claim that its still active inside the cooling cells.
The fence hasn't been up but 20 years or so. Before that you could crawl all around there. Including on the big metal boxes encasing the radio active materials that are in the concrete building. The train tunnels were open until about 30 years ago and they became dangerous (because of the river flooding) is the reason they blocked them off. You could even go into the building were they claimed if you breathed one particle of the dust in your lungs you would probably get lung cancer and die. They sealed the building up and put the fence up to keep people like me out of there.

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I've never seen any crazy animals out there but I've heard of friends getting dizzy or nausea setting in. Cool place though I kayak that river alot.
The screwed up deer and other animals have all been killed or died off by now. When they first opened the area up for hunting there were some really screwed up critters coming off that land. Never saw any that glowed in the dark but saw a good many strange racks and there were a good many deformed animals killed there. Within a few years the evidence had all been killed or died young. Hard to live in the wild with just 3 legs or 2 heads.
 

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I met a man on my bike ride the other day. He was leaving his mailbox and I noticed he was open carrying a handgun. I gave him a card and we talked for a while. The reservoir came up. He retired from the state. He worked there and said that place is as hot as a firecracker. Much of the mulch spread at a local state park came from the Atlanta tract. The feds came in and cut the vegetation around certain "hot" spots and weighed it, then chipped it up.

Anyway I saw this in the local paper:
Shoal Creek Saunter Hike

More on the Dam
 

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http://www.dawsonnews.com/section/2/article/10043/

The proposed 2,000-acre reservoir would be built on the hilly, wooded landscape of Dawson Forest, a 10,000-acre tract the city of Atlanta has owned since the early 1970s.

As of this week, the city has not agreed to sell the land or take part in the proposal, which has involved nearly four years of negotiations.
The Shoal Creek proposal is envisioned to provide a 20 billion gallon reservoir and water treatment facility capable of generating as much as 100 million gallons of water per day.
 

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That's nuts that they would build that on an old nuke and military site. They didn't necessarily follow many rules of proper disposal back then.
 

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Well the reservoir will be to the north of the Etowah river on Shoal Creek, which is across the river from the radiated site. The problem is Shoal creek really adds a lot of flow to the Etowah, damning that up will create problems in dry times, plus I'm sure Alabama will complain.
 

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Here we go again..... They released water to save the mussels now we're restricting that will ultimately kill off two protected fish. People hired to run this stuff are idiots...
 
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