Dad Pulls Gun Because Son Sat Bench

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Sharky, Oct 24, 2006.

  1. Sharky

    Sharky New Member

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    Police: Dad Pulls Gun Because Son Sat Bench

    POSTED: 12:29 am EDT October 24, 2006
    UPDATED: 6:44 am EDT October 24, 2006

    PHILADELPHIA -- Philadelphia police said a father pulled out a .357 Magnum pistol on a youth football coach because his son wasn't getting enough playing time.

    A fight ensued between the man and a referee, and both are now facing charges.

    Wayne Derkotch, 46, is accused of pulling the gun Sunday during a game between the Oxford Circle Raiders and the Burholme Outlaws -- 5- and 6- year-olds -- in Northeast Philadelphia. No shots were fired.

    Derkotch was charged with aggravated assault, simple assault and reckless endangerment. He did not immediately return a telephone message left at his home Monday.

    The referee, Shawn Henwood, said he said he was shocked to see a parent had brought a .357 Magnum with him.

    "Everyone started screaming, 'Gun! Gun!' I immediately turned the boys and ran them to the opposite side of the field because the issue happened over this way," Henwood said.

    He wasn't the only one who was surprised.

    "Why would you take a gun to where a bunch of young kids are ... for no reason," asked Wayne Kohler, one of Derkotch's neighbors.

    Derkotch didn't answer that question Monday night or the knock on the door of his home.

    The coach involved, whose own son plays for the Outlaws, was willing to talk, but didn't offer much detail other than to say overly enthusiastic parents can be a problem.

    "We get parents like that all the time ... just an unfortunate situation," said Coach Jermaine Wilson.

    The referee was also arrested on assault charges after allegedly throwing a punch at a man. But police said it's unclear if that fight was related to the first altercation. Henwood was also arrested on simple assault charges.

    Henwood apparently was arrested after a fight with Derkotch's brother. Henwood told Philadelphia TV station WCAU that he was upset because he believed he was struck first.
     
  2. Sharky

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    I dont think what the dad did was right, however, the following statement bothers me a little.

    ""Why would you take a gun to where a bunch of young kids are ... for no reason," asked Wayne Kohler, one of Derkotch's neighbors."

    Lets see a bunch of kids in one area, is like sheep for a wolf.
     

  3. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    :roll:

    Um, how about, "I was shocked to see that a parent threatened somebody with a gun over a minor dispute."

    Oh, no. The problem is that a parent brought a gun. Obviously, Sharky, people like you are the problem, in a world where actually threatening somebody isn't really enough to be remarkable but bringing a gun is remarkable.
     
  4. Sharky

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    MP-


    " Oh, no. The problem is that a parent brought a gun. Obviously, Sharky, people like you are the problem, in a world where actually threatening somebody isn't really enough to be remarkable but bringing a gun is remarkable."

    I believe either I stated my purpose wrong, which happens, or you took it the wrong way!

    I wasnt trying to imply anything other than people dont realize bad things happen everywhere. I read the article as people couldnt believe that somebody took the approach to protecting his family. That in no way had anything to do with his actions which were completely wrong! This guy obviously lost control.

    Im not sure why you come after me like that Malum. I dont have a problem! Perhaps they way I said it in my earlier post came out wrong.
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh, yeah?

    Oh, Yeah!?!

    You talking to me?

    :evil:
     
  6. USMC - Retired

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    Sharky,
    MP wasn't diggin on you, he just forgot to turn off his sarcasm button. What I believe he was trying to do is show that this guy was putting the blame in the wrong place (bringing a gun to a kids game) rather than where it really belongs (poor judgment on the dad for drawing in an argument).
     
  7. Malum Prohibitum

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    :D

    I was being sarcastic!

    Obviously, according to the person that was "shocked to see a parent had brought a gun" rather than shocked that he was threatening to murder someone (!) people like you (and me :D ) who carry guns are the problem, not people who commit acts of violence.


    I re-read my email, and it seems obvious. I was not "coming after you." :(
     
  8. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh, and the email right after yours is a joke! (Just in case).
     
  9. Sharky

    Sharky New Member

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    My apologies, sometimes his sacrasm is hard to figure out. I am sure in person like all conversations, the sarcasm is more obvious.

    Thanks for pointing that angle out to me. Makes sense. To bad my choice of words didnt bring that point out as I was kind of trying to say what you just did.

    MP-my apologies, and yeah I'm tawkin to you!
     
  10. USMC - Retired

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    psssst.. MP, these aint emails, they are forum posts.....
     
  11. Sharky

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    LOL okay i gues we are all getting a good laugh!

    Anyways, supposeldy I heard on another forum, this guy had a CCW for like 8 years or something.
     
  12. Malum Prohibitum

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    One news source is reporting the referee said the assailant told him he had a license.

    Why is the referee being charged?

    http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/15832557.htm


     
  13. Malum Prohibitum

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    Why wasn't the coach charged?

    What did the referee (Henwood) do wrong? :? Maybe they thought his self defense against the man helping a felon to escape by attacking him was too much?

    In most states, slapping something out of somebody's hand is battery!


    I wonder what would happen if I did not like a police officer writing a ticket, so I just walked up and slapped the ticket book out of his hand and perhaps went for his throat. If the officer dared to lay a hand on me, could he be arrested and charged?

    That is not just sarcasm, it is a good closing argument for the referee's trial! What a joke to have arrested him!

    (Assuming, of course, the accuracy of the news report).