Crusades, Muslims, etc. having nothing to do with Yousiff

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by fallison, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. fallison

    fallison Guest

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    The muslims over there have been teaching their own children to strap on bombs and blow themselves up to kill for decades. Why does their lack of any respect or mercy on someone else's child suprise anyone?
     
  2. AV8R

    AV8R Banned

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    Religion of peace, my ass. :evil:
     

  3. JiG

    JiG Awaiting censure

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    You know what their definition of "peace" is don't you?
     
  4. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    The same as Christians during the Crusade?
     
  5. tace

    tace New Member

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    Thank you, budder. :)

    It's very hypocritical for Christians to make such comments in my view, considering the amount of blood that has been shed in the name of God and/or oil.

    I know this is gonna sound wrong, but IMHO, it's actually not the religion but the ppl. There was a reason Islam was sent to the Arabs. They were burying their new born girls alive, raping, stealing and worshipping statues they created themselves. So, God gave them a last chance and sent them religion.

    It seems after 500 years, it's not working out so well for some of them. It seems to me that they are still up to the same things before they were introduced to religion.
     
  6. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    I'm a fan of Dave Barry's explanation of the Middle East:
     
  7. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Not really. I have previously posted the Koran verses relating to raping, maiming, and killing, and, given the firestorm it created, I will not do so again.

    Hypocritical, though, typically refers to something someone is doing while telling others not to do it. It comes from a Greek word relating to playing a part on a stage.

    Here is Merriam's definition:

    As I do not engage in spreading religion by the sword, there is absolutely nothing hypocritical in my statements criticising what the Koran teaches.

    Since you are Muslim but also do not engage in spreading your religion by the sword, or other acts of violence in the name of Allah, then it is also not hypocritical for you to argue that your religion is not a religion of violence, since you are not feigning to believe something you do not believe.
     
  8. pro2am

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    So let me get this straight. I can't ever criticize something because I did that same thing in my past?

    If I killed somebody by driving drunk...but I no longer drive drunk...I'm not allowed to criticize drunk drivers?

    Bull.

    There's a big difference in recognizing and stopping past destructive behavior, and sanctioning it. A portion of Muslims have publicly declared that killing non-believers is their goal. It is undeniable. Does that make ALL Muslims bad...no it does not...at the same time, religion can be a powerful motivator for behavioral changes. Christians did find that out during the crusades et al, and took hundreds of years to learn from it. Which part of Islam will win? The hardliners that condone killing infidels...or the peaceful Muslims?
     
  9. M249

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    You should all convert to Chadism.
     
  10. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    :whistle:
     
  11. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    But you do still drive drunk: http://www.godhatesfags.com/

    M249, FSM > you.
     
  12. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    You were in the Crusades?!? :D
     
  13. AeroShooter

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    I wonder what Communion must be like in the Church of the FSM...
     
  14. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    You think pro2am hates somebody while pretending not to?
     
  15. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    I didn't think he was older than Bulldawg! Macktee was around back then; maybe he can vouch for pro2am.
     
  16. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    AWESOME.

    Well, yes, but that's beside the point.
     
  17. Macktee

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    I believe tace said it best, it's not the various religions, it's the people who twist those religions to justify their own hatreds and cruelty.

    Yes, there are some passages in the Koran that instruct followers to perform hateful acts, but there are equally reprehensible passages in the bible.

    What course of action to take comes down to the major conflict that's been going on since time immoral. The conflict between the inherent good in most people vs. the evil in the few. Unfortunately, even good people can be led astray and convinced doing evil is acceptable behavior. All that's required is a good and believable reason justifying such behavior. Sadly, religion has been used to that end countless times the world over throughout human history.
     
  18. tace

    tace New Member

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    :exactly: What the wise man said :)
     
  19. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    just gonna stay out of this one...
     
  20. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    The comparison is not even close to apt, Macktee, as I have demonstrated here before.

    With that having been said, I do not think any member here is criticizing any other particular member on their religious beliefs/actions, except for perhaps pro2am, who is justly criticized for his personal participation in the Crusades.