Courage, Liberty, Guns and Weed

Discussion in 'Off-topic Political' started by JiG, Sep 30, 2010.

  1. JiG

    JiG Awaiting censure

    The following article is based off a speech given on 09-25-10 at the 25th Annual Gun Rights Policy Conference in San Francisco, CA.

    Source where I found this article and video.

    Copyright © 2010 Tenth Amendment Center. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit is given.


    by Michael Boldin
    Tenth Amendment Center

    (Video of speech so you don't have to read and can hear in author's own words.)

    I’ve often been told that when you’re giving a speech – if all you get is applause and cheers – and you never piss anyone off – you’re no better than a low-life politician, because you’re not challenging anyone’s conventional mode of thought. Hopefully, I get at least a few eyebrows raised here in my 8–9 short minutes….

    So let’s start out with the easy stuff, ok? I’m a tenther. That means I believe that the federal government should exercise only those powers that we the people delegated to it in the constitution – and nothing more. For example, no Obamacare mandates, no bank bailouts, and definitely no federal gun laws – period.

    Question. How many people here own a gun, or manufacture or sell guns?

    And how many of you are proud felons – meaning, when the government makes rules to restrict your right to keep and bear arms, you simply ignore them because they don’t have the authority to do so?


    I recently went to an event called Hemp Con down in my part of the state – Los Angeles. This is a big event at the LA convention center – with loads of vendors and businesses from every angle you can think of in support of the marijuana industry. There were home security companies to help protect your weed, solar power companies to help you grow your weed, doctors giving out medical marijuana cards to virtually anyone with $80 and an hour of time. There were even delivery services – you can get your marijuana delivered to you 24 hours a day…in 30 minutes or less. The pizza companies have nothing on these guys! It was amazing if you think about it from an economic standpoint – this was capitalism, the free market – working its wonders around an industry.

    What’s the point?

    Virtually EVERY single one of those businesses was either directly violating federal law, or aiding someone else in doing so because marijuana is illegal, according to the feds – but not the constitution – in all situations. In 2003, Tommy Chong was arrested for merely selling pieces of glass – pipes that could be used to smoke marijuana. And today, 7 years later, we’ve got what seemed to be the WalMart of weed in Downtown Los Angeles. And guess what – no ATF or DEA thugs shut the place down. Business functioned, people did what they wanted to in freedom, and that was that.


    Another quick story.

    In 2005, the Bush administration got the REAL ID act passed, which was – in the eyes of many – a new form of a national ID card. We were warned that if this act wasn’t followed, people wouldn’t be able to travel, enter federal buildings, get on planes, and the like.

    Much of my girlfriend’s family lives in Missouri, a state that’s not in compliance with the Real ID act. Her relatives do a little traveling from time to time. They get on airplanes and show their non-compliant Missouri driver’s license. No federal agents stop them and prevent them from boarding a plane.

    Well, most state DL’s – including those in Missouri – don’t comply with the Real ID Act. That law is still on the books in DC – it’s never been repealed. It’s never been challenged in court either. But – due to 25 states refusing to comply with the “law†– in much of the country that Real ID act is virtually null and void.

    Here in California, the state always seems to be on its knees, begging the feds for something. Well, except on marijuana. In 2005, the Supreme Court ruled that state medical marijuana laws were illegal. At that time there were 10 states that had such laws. Do you know how many were repealed? Zero. And today, there’s 14 states defying Washington DC, and getting away with it.

    Today, we see the Firearms Freedom Act movement growing along these lines – it’s already passed in 8 states. Following that lead, 5 states have passed laws saying no to Obamacare mandates too.


    What’s the lesson? This is the blueprint – when enough people say no to unconstitutional laws, regulations….and mandates….and enough states pass laws to back those people up – there’s not much the federal government can do, but slowly and consistently back off. There’s no tanks rolling into Los Angeles to shut down the dispensaries, and there’s no jack-booted thugs forcing people to get new driver’s licenses in Missouri. This is far from perfect, but it can work, and it is working right now.

    So here’s the final question – and the big challenge to you today.

    The next time you begrudgingly follow some federal “law†that restricts your right to keep and bear arms – or the next time you hear about a gun rights case that will be decided in 2, or 4, or 6 years – with the hope that some judge will give you permission to exercise your rights, ask yourself this question:

    Do you….gun rights activists….have as much courage as the pot smokers?

    For the sak of liberty – I hope you do – because I believe that we the people need to exercise our rights whether they the government wants to give us “permission†to or not!

    Michael Boldin is the founder of the Tenth Amendment Center.

  2. Campeck1911

    Campeck1911 New Member

    I like it.
    I don't like the idea of violent felons with guns though...but they have them already. So whatever. As long as I have mine.

    So he's saying we should all just start carrying without licenses and into post offices and things? What about the state laws? The state won't arrest you in cali for smoking weed but the state will arrest you for going into a post office armed in Georgia.

  3. seereus

    seereus Active Member

    Does Michael Boldin carry a firearm, or is he just trying to bring the laws attention to those who do carry?
  4. JiG

    JiG Awaiting censure

    Seereus, I don't know. If you want, you can follow the link where there's an email address for him. You could ask the author himself.

    Camppeck, no... What he's saying is when the federal government makes a law making something gun related illegal, but Georgia makes a law to contradict it, stand with your state. Disobey federal law, obey state law. The federal government has no choice but to tuck tail and quietly slip into the darkness. The pot heads in California and the states that made laws against the Real ID prove it. The federal government's powers are nullified when a state says no.
  5. mb90535im

    mb90535im Well-Known Member

    Really, you think so?

    I'd say just wait until a GOP President is back in the White House and the marijuana industry in CA will be painfully reminded by the Justice Dept. of the "commerce and supremency clauses". I wish it weren't true, but the SCOTUS says otherwise. The (medical) marijuana industry is thriving now in CA only because Obama has called off the hounds.

    I'll admit it will be interesting to see how the Feds react if CA happens to pass Prop 19 in November. Current polling has it at 52% in favor of passage.
  6. oxfat

    oxfat Member

    That is a great article. A search of their website didn't reveal anything related to the Arizona border control issue. I'd like to see where they stand on that.
  7. TippinTaco

    TippinTaco New Member

    I agree with this. This guy seems to want to start some Anti-Gov movement, but seriously you're not going to catch me disobeying federal laws any time soon. I'm far from being a member of the herd, but I have no need or want to sit in a cell some where to rot, while the rest of ya figure out this guy was really full of :censored: I'm not saying what he says has no merit, I'm saying the whole do everything that we have the right to do in our state and forget about the Federal Gov... Anyone care to be a test subject? I'm sure I'm hearing crickets right now..

    Another point is maybe someone finally woke up in Cali and in Dc and said : "WAIT!!!.. We can tax this stuff, make A LOT of revenue on this and pay some of these large @#[email protected]# bills we have."

    I'm 100% certain thats why Arnold rolled with it, begging on hands and knees for Obama to give him some support, and basically being ignored like the rest of the united states, he did what he had to do for survival. Legalize it in small amounts in his state, tax the crap out of it and in turn revenue pouring in. Other states soon followed doing the same thing. Yes its capitalism at its best, but also its the state gov trying to survive as well.
  8. oxfat

    oxfat Member

    Say it ain't so!

    I think where I see the usefulness in the "tenther" argument is on SB1070 in Arizona. There are a lot (like 17) other states that could follow suit; probably depending on the November elections. Would the federal government take on all of us?

    I agree that in California's instance, its got to be tax related. But the idea is still valid.
  9. EmergencyNrse

    EmergencyNrse Member

    I was there last week