[futureusr]

People believe in a particular God, Goddess or Gods because of the indoctrination of their family and culture. Their religious identity was defined for them, they did not select it.

How many Christians here would be Muslim if raised in a Muslim family? How many Jehovah's Witnesses would be Mormon if raised in a Mormon family?

How many here have a religious identity that is counter to that of their parents and family?

 

[jlcnuke]

People believe in a particular God, Goddess or Gods because of the indoctrination of their family and culture. Their religious identity was defined for them, they did not select it.

How many Christians here would be Muslim if raised in a Muslim family? How many Jehovah's Witnesses would be Mormon if raised in a Mormon family?

How many here have a religious identity that is counter to that of their parents and family?

My family raised me Catholic, I'm an agnostic atheist now. I'd wager (based purely on my own anecdotal evidence) that the largest % of people who have a religious identity different from their families are people from religious families that are not themselves religious anymore.

 

[Nemo]

Yes I could be. But I'm not.

Nemo

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

My family raised me Catholic, I'm an agnostic atheist now. I'd wager (based purely on my own anecdotal evidence) that the largest % of people who have a religious identity different from their families are people from religious families that are not themselves religious anymore.

I realize I am an outlier, but this does not describe me. Raised one religion, chose another. My wife is the same. Raised one way, chose another. In both cases it produced some stress and fractures in family relationships, as the family most definitely did not approve.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

i'm a strong/positive atheist. we are relatively rare. i know that god(s) don't exist.

Such are not rare on this web site.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

i'm also a fan of clark, that quote in particular, and the familiar STTNG episode (who watches the watchers). that doesn't mean that supernatural things can exist. in fact, picard proves that he is not a god in it, even though the ignorant people demand that he is.

This whole thread is just a setting in which the atheists can feel smug in their self-proclaimed superiority and talk about the inferior ignorance of believers in any faith.

Whoopee. :roll:

 

[GM404]

My family raised me Catholic, I'm an agnostic atheist now. I'd wager (based purely on my own anecdotal evidence) that the largest % of people who have a religious identity different from their families are people from religious families that are not themselves religious anymore.

I am disappointed in myself for clicking on this troll thread, but I did and just wonder how would you define "an agnostic atheist"? The meaning between the two are quite different. An atheist doesn't believe, whereas an agnostic just isn't sure. The way it happened for me was..(and I think this is pretty common w/ atheists)...

Raised in home and made to go to church --> Get older, stop going to church --> wonder what is the deal with "God", try out several different churches/religions --> After not being able to reconcile issues presented in most religions, become agnostic (maybe there is a god? I don't know?) --> Read, read, read, study, study, study...conclude there is NO GOD and there is no proof of such thus become full blown athesist. --> Die and find out one way or another.

Anyway, this subject is a hot potato (just as bad as abortion) and no one here is going to change any minds. Either you believe or you don't...it's of no consequence to others what your beliefs are.

 

[Mafuta54]

You have offered no evidence of God's existence. "The universe exists so God must exist" is not evidence, it is a statement without justification. Your thoughts, wishes, dreams, hopes, belief, or faith are not "evidence" of your God's existence any more than the same things that followers of thousands of other God's are "evidence" of their God's existence.

Don't feel bad though, exactly zero people in the history of the planet have offered evidence of their God's existence either, hence one of the main reasons that religion is and has always been a tangled mess of people believing different things.

You have offered no evidence that God does not exist.

 

[GM404]

This whole thread is just a setting in which the theists can feel smug in their self-proclaimed superiority and talk about the inferior ignorance of non believers in any faith.

Whoopee. :roll:

Corrected it for you. \\/

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

How is that a correction? Maybe you should go back and read the first post, the first page and reassess your analysis of the purpose of this thread.

 

[gsusnake]

This whole thread is just a setting in which the atheists can feel smug in their self-proclaimed superiority and talk about the inferior ignorance of believers in any faith.

Whoopee. :roll:

This thread is not about god. It's about human fallibility.

Read the topic carefully. Could you be wrong about God?

 

[GM404]

How is that a correction? Maybe you should go back and read the first post, the first page and reassess your analysis of the purpose of this thread.

It was meant as a play on words...to show that the argument could be made both ways. I am *not* going back and reading the entire thread...I am mad at myself for reading it in the first place...knowing damn well where it would go and FAST.

Anyway, as I stated before, there are no minds being changed here, so I am moving on.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

I am mad at myself for reading it in the first place

Me, too. :lol:

 

[gsusnake]

Could I be wrong about god? Sure could. No one is infallible.

 

[Stapelhead]

I think this whole thread is STUPID and should be ended and wiped out so no one else makes the mistake of reading this. It is always the non believers that start crap like this,some opinions and self proclaimed theories should kept to your self or taken to a site where they enjoy the the confrontation

GOD IS REAL FOR ME NUFF SAID

 

[Adam5]

Could I be wrong about god? Sure could. No one is infallible.

This.

 

[gsusnake]

I think this whole thread is STUPID and should be ended and wiped out so no one else makes the mistake of reading this. It is always the non believers that start crap like this,some opinions and self proclaimed theories should kept to your self or taken to a site where they enjoy the the confrontation

GOD IS REAL FOR ME NUFF SAID

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

 

[jlcnuke]

I am disappointed in myself for clicking on this troll thread, but I did and just wonder how would you define "an agnostic atheist"? The meaning between the two are quite different. An atheist doesn't believe, whereas an agnostic just isn't sure. The way it happened for me was..(and I think this is pretty common w/ atheists)...

Raised in home and made to go to church --> Get older, stop going to church --> wonder what is the deal with "God", try out several different churches/religions --> After not being able to reconcile issues presented in most religions, become agnostic (maybe there is a god? I don't know?) --> Read, read, read, study, study, study...conclude there is NO GOD and there is no proof of such thus become full blown athesist. --> Die and find out one way or another.

Anyway, this subject is a hot potato (just as bad as abortion) and no one here is going to change any minds. Either you believe or you don't...it's of no consequence to others what your beliefs are.

[ag-nos-tik]
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noun
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

To put it simply, the original and most pure definition of "agnostic" with regards to religion is "does not believe we can know of the existence or non-existence of a deity".

Atheist includes two similar, but fundamentally different definitions as it included "people who don't believe in any deity" as well as "people who believe no deity exists".

The former are generally "agnostic atheists" as they don't believe in a god but don't claim such a being couldn't exist.

You can also have "agnostic theists" who believe in a god but don't believe that such a deity can be truly known to us etc.

You have offered no evidence that God does not exist.

The "claim" is that God exists, and as such the burden of proof is on those making the claim. Without that claim, no "disbelief claim" would ever have existed. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

 

[Stapelhead]

You know what buddy I don't think I want to friends with you so I'm logging off unsubscribing and deleting the whole damn app from my phone I have enjoyed this forum greatly until now my mama always said watch the company you keep and a couple of creeps just ruined the whole damn thing so God Bless and peace be with you all

 

[gsusnake]

If you can't handle a dissenting opinion maybe the internet isn't the place for you.