Could you be wrong about God?
Just curious about the poll....
Remember, this is only about whether or not God exists, not other nuances like 'oh, I could be wrong about predestination', etc.
Remember, this is only about whether or not God exists, not other nuances like 'oh, I could be wrong about predestination', etc.
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not necessarilyThe universe had to come about in some way
no, we don't all agree on that. i can't even agree that you understand what the big bang was. it wasn't necessarily the beginning. it was just when things came to be as we can understand them now. it's not currently knowable what existed prior to the big bang, or if the big bang is one of many in a larger multiverse.at least as we see it now, we all agree there was some beginning.
for instance, time ceases to have meaning before it. but, time is a man-made invention. the universe doesn't care if it doesn't fit our current understanding, or some other paradigm we haven't imagined yet.
then who created god? you insist on a certain nature of causality, and the first thing you do is invent something that defies it. this has been pointed out to you multiple times, and you continue to ignore it.God could have used that event to created the universe.
So, as CM stated, you "extend" your trust to those you do not think are going to spill your guts.no, i don't think that every one of them will. i just don't pretend to know which one would out of the many. do you?
No, I do not. If I did I would seek professional help.
Revelation1:8not necessarily
no, we don't all agree on that. i can't even agree that you understand what the big bang was. it wasn't necessarily the beginning. it was just when things came to be as we can understand them now. it's not currently knowable what existed prior to the big bang, or if the big bang is one of many in a larger multiverse.
for instance, time ceases to have meaning before it. but, time is a man-made invention. the universe doesn't care if it doesn't fit our current understanding, or some other paradigm we haven't imagined yet.
then who created god? you insist on a certain nature of causality, and the first thing you do is invent something that defies it. this has been pointed out to you multiple times, and you continue to ignore it.
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
Scripture is meaningless to those who don't believe in it.
That's the problem with Christianity. You people keep quoting a book I know to be fiction with the expectation that I will acknowledge it to be more than a story book.
That's the problem with Christianity. You people keep quoting a book I know to be fiction with the expectation that I will acknowledge it to be more than a story book.
Circular reasoning is lost on those who practice it.Scripture is meaningless to those who don't believe in it.
That's the problem with Christianity. You people keep quoting a book I know to be fiction with the expectation that I will acknowledge it to be more than a story book.
I was just answering the first cause question that was asked. It's a relevant question and the answer is in the Bible.
you've missed the point. the only logical conclusion is that if one cannot necessarily determine if there is a bad guy or who is, to not to trust anyone.So, as CM stated, you "extend" your trust to those you do not think are going to spill your guts.
No, I do not. If I did I would seek professional help.
If you were proselytizing to a Muslim and they kept quoting out of the Quran, wouldn't you feel the same way.I was just answering the first cause question that was asked. It's a relevant question and the answer is in the Bible.
"It's in the Quran."
do you guys really feel you are laying some gems out there when you quote the bible to atheists as evidence? i'm really curious why ya would keep doing it.Revelation1:8
Apologies, I think I answered the wrong question. I thought you were asking me the same question I asked you.you've missed the point. the only logical conclusion is that if one cannot necessarily determine if there is a bad guy or who is, to not to trust anyone.
To answer your question...No, I do not know which one(s) would.
Not trusting anyone is a little different than being polite and having a plan to kill everyone you meet. In your own words, you do not have a plan to kill everyone you meet; so, you must trust some.
i do trust some people that i know; but not strangers (i.e. people you "meet"). but, let's not stray too far from the initial point...Apologies, I think I answered the wrong question. I thought you were asking me the same question I asked you.
To answer your question...No, I do not know which one(s) would.
Not trusting anyone is a little different than being polite and having a plan to kill everyone you meet. In your own words, you do not have a plan to kill everyone you meet; so, you must trust some.
blind faith is dangerousOriginally Posted by CoffeeMateOriginally Posted by phaed
also, faith, as it's used here, is belief without evidence or reason. under any circumstances could you agree that belief without evidence or reason could be dangerous, even insane behavior?
Do you mean like the way trust works?
I never said because we don't understand, then there must be God. I said that the more we find out, the more it makes me believe in God, you're really having to twist things around aren't you?Irreducible complexity is not science or even good logic. We do not understand, therefore God.
The bible said it was a void, I'm thinking, no space time, if the big bang happened, I think we agree that started things out, the way they are now.not necessarily
no, we don't all agree on that. i can't even agree that you understand what the big bang was. it wasn't necessarily the beginning. it was just when things came to be as we can understand them now. it's not currently knowable what existed prior to the big bang, or if the big bang is one of many in a larger multiverse.
for instance, time ceases to have meaning before it. but, time is a man-made invention. the universe doesn't care if it doesn't fit our current understanding, or some other paradigm we haven't imagined yet.
then who created god? you insist on a certain nature of causality, and the first thing you do is invent something that defies it. this has been pointed out to you multiple times, and you continue to ignore it.
Nobody created God, He created us for His own reasons, He was there before and He will be there forever. Eternal, and he'll be there after this world is gone and all humans are gone.
That's a really silly question, which is why I ignore it. I really do hate so many here will burn in hell after death all because of pride and expecting God to make a talking donkey today to prove to you he exists, when he already sent his son to earth for you, and still you don't believe. Such as it had to be though, you'll unfortunately be just one of the many souls down there. It sucks, but there is nothing I can really do for you at this point. I'm sure you'll just cruelly mock me further if I said I prayed for you all.
I'd say someone is making assumptions regarding the underlying design goals.Fallschirmjäger said:> If God was so smart, why did he design the giraffe's laryngeal nerve to travel about a hundred times the length needed?
:lol:
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For example...
"...no engineer in his right mind would design it like this..."
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"...that's at least ten times the distance... all it needs to do is this..."
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"...at least that would be intelligent design..."
It might use a lot less material and cover a lot less distance, but it would sure make for a lousy holding pen. Maybe the design goals involve more than simply connecting the two end-points?
"...no engineer in his right mind would design it like this..."
"...that's at least ten times the distance... all it needs to do is this..."
"...at least that would be intelligent design..."
It might use a lot less material and cover a lot less distance, but it would sure make for a lousy holding pen. Maybe the design goals involve more than simply connecting the two end-points?
And yet people walk past each other on the sidewalk daily.phaed said:you've missed the point. the only logical conclusion is that if one cannot necessarily determine if there is a bad guy or who is, to not to trust anyone.
phaed said:blind faith is dangerous
Irreducible complexity. I cannot imagine any other purpose, therefore evolution.It might use a lot less material and cover a lot less distance, but it would sure make for a lousy holding pen. Maybe the design goals involve more than simply connecting the two end-points?
What's good for the goose...
and yet you still carry a gunAnd yet people walk past each other on the sidewalk daily.
And yet people are real and can be proven to exist.and yet you still carry a gun
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