[68908]

There is no evidence that he lacked justification for shooting him, either. There is no way to know. The video is unavailable to the public and will probably remain so until November.

Well he was unarmed and outside of his vehicle when he was shot according to reports.

The only way I can see this as a legit shoot as if the video shows the deaf guy going for the officer's gun.

Was this guy Jason Bourne or something?

If not, then I don't see any other feasible way this unarmed deaf guy, outside of his vehicle was a threat to the officer at all.

You can do pepper spray or tazer if you have it to someone not responding or not acting right. Also, officer's are trained in hand to hand actions as well.

So is the officer claiming the deaf guy went for his gun? If not, then its going to be hard for a video to prove to me killing this guy was the right move.

 

[Nemo]

The title of the thread is all I want to bother reading, so I made up my mind based on the information contained therein.

I think you mentioned some time employed as a prosecutor. That would explain those views.

Nemo

 

[Schweisshund]

Ok, gentlemen (and ladies), a Deaf friend of mine just shared a video with me of what happened.

Daniel Harris knew he was being pursued and fled from the initial stop (his car was parked sideways, blocking traffic, on an exit ramp, at start of the video). The Officer approached the vehicle, when Daniel Harris put it in in drive, and what appears (hard to tell) attempted to run the Officer over with his vehicle. The officer ran back to his patrol car and pursued Daniel Harris.

1) He knew an officer was approaching his vehicle - why it was parked sideways blocking traffic on an exit ramp is anyone's guess.

2) the Officer was not being confrontational, did not have his weapon drawn.

3) Daniel's driver side door was open, he slammed it shut as the Officer approached, then put it in drive and it looked like he attempted to run the Officer over

4) The Officer quickly went to his patrol car to pursue Daniel

5) The video ends as you see Daniel turning right off the exit ramp with the patrol car in pursuit.

The video is on the Facebook page titled "WSOC-TV"

(***important*** the video is from someone's camera phone sitting in traffic, it was not the LEO's dashcam or bodycam video, and it does not show the shooting)

 

[Schweisshund]

Ok, I found a link to the video that is not facebook related:

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/ex...efore-trooper-shoots-kills-deaf-man/429858803

 

[68908]

I think it's probably well understood this guy broke a law, the question is did he do something to warrant killing.

Badge or no badge.

 

[Craftsman]

I think it's probably well understood this guy broke a law, the question is did he do something to warrant killing.

Ultimately ALL laws are enforced via the state killing those who disobey and/or resist.

"There ought to be a law..." is the moral equivalent of "He should be killed for..."

 

[Schweisshund]

I still want to see the video of the shooting.

 

[jlw253]

"There ought to be a law..." is the moral equivalent of "He should be killed for..."[/QUOTE]

Wishing we had a more convenient "like" button.

 

[68908]

Ultimately ALL laws are enforced via the state killing those who disobey and/or resist.

"There ought to be a law..." is the moral equivalent of "He should be killed for..."

You got it

 

[mog]

Really? Talk about taking it to extremes.

 

[68908]

Really? Talk about taking it to extremes.

There is not one law on the books that government agents are not willing to kill you over if you resist or do not comply. This is how authoritarian countries work.

 

[TITAN308]

There is not one law on the books that goverment agents are not wiling to kill you over if you resist or do not comply. This is how authoritatian countries work.

Should we be concerned about government agents that do? Absolutely.

With that said, you seem to be the king of hyperbole around here on these topics.

I'm willing to bet people shot because they jaywalked is probably on par with how many registered NFA firearms are used in crimes.

 

[68908]

Should we be concerned about government agents that do? Absolutely.

With that said, you seem to be the king of hyperbole around here on these topics.

I'm willing to bet people shot because they jaywalked is probably on par with how many registered NFA firearms are used in crimes.

Its not hyperbole if its true, apologist.

Shot? Not many. Beat up, tackled, and pushed and shoved to the ground. More than you would like to know.

He's just lucky he was not armed, because yeah, I believe he would have been shot and killed.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-stockton-officers-teen-jaywalking-20150918-story.html

Jaywalking.

Let me repeat that again. Jaywalking.

Police do not need guns to shoot you with in order to kill you. Do you need me to keep linking you to stories where people were killed because cops put their knees in the perps back, choked them to death, or hit them with the tazer and their head hit the pavement and they died?

I can if you would like, something to keep in mind when you're out there enforcing all these laws.

 

[68908]

Just for you precious.

Cigarette Taxes: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/staten-island-man-dies-puts-choke-hold-article-1.1871486

For speaking: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/15/jonathan-sanders-mississppi-chokehold

Resisting in Georgia no less: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/21/us/taser-death-georgia-deputies/

Braindead:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-being-pinned-to-ground-by-three-police-offi/

I can keep going all day, there are tons of articles all over the internet of cops killing unarmed people without using their firearms to shoot them.

Guns are not the problem. Cops shooting people are not the problem, either.

The problem is cops killing people when they resist after committing no crime or victimless crimes.

I completely understand a cop killing an unarmed person who goes for their gun, I'd do the same thing.

That is not the case, and that is not what I'm talking about.

 

[TITAN308]

You can sprinkle in comments like '"precious" or "apologist" all you want. (don't forget statist) You still lose credibility in the way you post, which is in fact, very hyperbolic.

It is akin to me linking to articles about black gang bangers (which no doubt I can find thousands of them) and stating all black people are no good gang bangers.

If you'll notice I made no comment about the specific cop in this news story being in the right. I merely commented on your, again, hyperbolic knee-jerk nature.

I wish some of you would keep this crap to the political sub section as that serves as an artificial barrier.

 

[68908]

You can sprinkle in comments like '"precious" or "apologist" all you want. (don't forget statist) You still lose credibility in the way you post, which is in fact, very hyperbolic.

It is akin to me linking to articles about black gang bangers (which no doubt I can find thousands of them) and stating all black people are no good gang bangers.

If you'll notice I made no comment about the specific cop in this news story being in the right. I merely commented on your, again, hyperbolic knee-jerk nature.

I wish some of you would keep this crap to the political sub section as that serves as an artificial barrier.

Its not hyperbole if its the truth.

 

[TITAN308]

Been a while since I got to use this one. *breaths deep*

 

[68908]

Been a while since I got to use this one. *breaths deep*

That's it my son, let the butt hurt flow through you just kidding bro, no need to get so upset

 

[WGTactical]

my goodness :rotfl2:

 

[phaed]

if it's hyperbole, maybe titan can answer this question for the class then:

what is the inevitable outcome of a person refusing to ever comply with law enforcement over the most menial crime in the US?