Cop Fears Wild West in Illinois

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Malum Prohibitum, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Do you guys remember the arrest of Shaun Kranish?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... &cset=true

    "With Mother's Day approaching, Shaun Kranish needed a gift, so he strapped on his unloaded semiautomatic 9 mm pistol and left his Rockford home to do some shopping."

    "... Kranish put the 15-round magazine into a separate pouch on the holster, where he could easily reach it if necessary."

    "... Taken into custody, he was charged with aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, a felony."

    "Earlier this week, a Winnebago County judge dismissed the charge ..." ...

    "Cherry Valley Police Chief Gary Maitland disagrees with the judge's ruling."

    "'This is not the Old West,' he said. 'I'm not advocating banning handguns. But I'm not aware of any police officer who would advocate more handguns on the street. ..."

    (Links added by kaba.com)
     
  2. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    This is the outcome Shaun expected. Dismissal.
     

  3. legacy38

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    Somebody get me that chief's number so that I can give him a call.
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Straight from the Horse's Mouth:

    I went to court today, and Judge Steven Vecchio ruled according to the law, as it is written, despite pressure from the state to "legislate from the bench" on this entirely POLITICAL issue.

    The charge of Aggravated Unlawful Use of Weapons was dismissed with prejudice because I was exempt from prosecution according to the exception firearms may be transported that:

    (iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case,

    firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card;
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

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    History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. —Dwight D. Eisenhower

    :wink:
     
  6. ahlongslide

    ahlongslide New Member

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    At work:

    Gary Maitland
    806 E. State Street
    Cherry Valley, Illinois 61016
    Phone: 815/332-3431
    E-Mail: gmaitland@cherryvalley.org
     
  7. ahlongslide

    ahlongslide New Member

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    Home Address and Phone #:

    Maitland, Gary
    3338 Hoffman Ct
    Cherry Valley, IL 61016

    815-332-7088
     
  8. legacy38

    legacy38 Active Member

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    I just may actually call him, but I'm sure that since I'm just a hick cop from the South that I don't count.
     
  9. ber950

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    For those not up on this case. This is big. Its a loophole in IL law big enough to drive a truck through.

    Nobody wants to carry their weapon in condition 4 but that is the only legal way to carry in IL unless you are one of the privilaged.

    I don't know if the state is able to appeal this ruling, but if they can they probably will.

    If the legislature attempts to change this law it will likely result in CCW outside of the metro Chicago area.
     
  10. Malum Prohibitum

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    Published: July 20, 2007

    Local News: Rockford

    Dismissal of weapons charge seen as ‘huge progress’
    College student was found with an unloaded gun in a holster.

    By Corina Curry
    ROCKFORD REGISTER STAR


    ROCKFORD — A gun charge against a Rock Valley College student for carrying a semi-automatic pistol in a holster while shopping at CherryVale Mall was dismissed Monday.

    Judge Steven Vecchio of the 17th Circuit Court of Winnebago and Boone counties dismissed the felony aggravated unlawful use of a weapon charge against Shaun Kranish after Kranish’s attorney argued his client wasn’t breaking the law.

    Kranish, 22, was arrested in May 2006 for carrying the unloaded gun at the mall in what has been described as an enclosed holster, meaning the gun is not exposed. Kranish had the ammunition for the gun in a separate compartment on the holster, which was strapped to his right thigh.

    Illinois law stipulates it is illegal to carry or possess a firearm in public, but they can be transported if the weapons are broken down in a nonfunctioning state; are not immediately accessible; or are unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm-carrying box, shipping box or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid firearm owner’s identification card.

    Kranish’s attorney, who could not be reached for comment Thursday, argued in his motion to dismiss that his client’s holster constituted a case.

    “The defense believes that if the case encloses the weapon then it’s not a violation of the law,†said Winnebago County State’s Attorney Paul Logli, whose office prosecuted the weapons charge. “They argued that carrying it on his person qualifies as a case, and he can carry it. We disagree. We don’t believe a fanny pack is an exception to the weapons statute.â€

    Logli said his office has 30 days to file a notice of appeal.

    “We believe we have sufficient grounds for appeal,†he said. “Hopefully the appellate court can make some law on this.â€

    Gun rights advocates across the state are viewing the case’s dismissal as a major victory, paving the way for fewer gun restrictions for law-abiding gun owners.

    “Shaun made huge progress with this case,†said John Birch, the nearly 10-year president of Concealed Carry Inc. “Sometimes we can’t make progress legislatively, but we can in the judicial system.â€


    Birch, of Oak Brook, said he hopes law enforcement officials take note of the case’s outcome.

    “I hope the state’s attorneys and sheriffs of this state will educate everybody and their own people on the proper and legal methods of transporting weapons so they stop prosecuting innocent people,†Birch said.

    Kranish, of Rockford, is the founder of the Web-based organization ICarry.org.

    He also was arrested in October 2005 and charged with disorderly conduct after wearing an empty holster into the Rock Valley College president’s office. He said he wanted to make an appointment with the president to speak about gun rights and was directed to campus police. A secretary told police that she couldn’t tell if the holster was empty or not :lol: and called campus police to alert them that someone might be on campus with a gun.

    That charge was dropped due to insufficient evidence.

    Kranish, who also could not be reached for comment, has a $1.5 million civil rights lawsuit in federal court as a result of that arrest alleging he was wrongfully arrested and his right of free speech among other rights was violated.

    A misdemeanor charge of resisting a police officer from the mall incident remains pending, as well.

    Staff writer Corina Curry can be reached at 815-987-1395 or ccurry@rrstar.com.
     
  11. ahlongslide

    ahlongslide New Member

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    I think it will count because he thinks there are no cops that want more guns on the streets. Prove him wrong.

    Of course, I agree with him, I don't want more guns on the streets either, they might get mud splashed on them or fall into the sanitary sewer. They function much better otherwise.
     
  12. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    He just won't believe that legacy's a true <strike>Scotsman</strike>cop, since, after all, no cops want more guns on the street.
     
  13. fallison

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    Does anyone else see just how wrong this is?
     
  14. jgullock

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    Hmmmm, I thought the legislature did that...silly me.
     
  15. Malum Prohibitum

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    http://walworthcorruption.blogspot.com/
     
  16. ptsmith24

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    Wow...didn't seem like he ever gave them permission to search...more like forced him. But apparently the empty holster was PC...or something.
     
  17. jeepsterwannabe

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    Not trying to hijack the thread but anyone got any links to the outcome of that Dan Sayers case in Ohio, where he was arrested for carrying a 380 on his hip while pumping gas... remember the long video of the arrest?
     
  18. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Search function!