The recent thread about how well a 1911 style pistol conceals got me thinking. To me, the hardest part of a gun to conceal is the grip. Thin is better than thick. Short is better than long. If I'm carrying the pistol in a concealment holster on my belt, the length of the barrel and slide doesn't bother me. 5" is fine. A 3.5" or 4.5" barrel on a pistol with a short grip frame may look more proportional, but I don't think the stubby top end really makes the gun a better carry piece. Weight is sort-of important, but I recognize that weight helps the recoil feel better and keeps the muzzle flip down. So the "weight savings" that comes from bobbing the barrel and slide on a carry gun is to me, a wash. It is equally countered by the undesirable characteristics of more muzzle rise, and more recoil. And let's consider accuracy. Mechanical accuracy is about the same, from 3" barrels to 5" barrels. But PRACTICAL accuracy, shooting fast and while standing on your own two feet holding the gun in your hands, is always better with the longer barrel. Longer sight radius. And it's easier to point, too. You can get a "flash sight picture" or just look across the top of the slide and point the weapon without any use of the sights at all. Longer barrels are easier to do this with. BOTTOM LINE: I think a great carry gun would be thin, have a short grip, but a standard-length slide and barrel. And the weight should be medium. Not too light, but not all steel either. TOKAREV: The Soviet Tokarev pistol has the right dimensions. It could be even thinner if the grip panels were made thinner, too. These guns can be very accurate. But they are on the heavy side, being all steel. Weight reduction was simply not a factor at all in their design. And they don't have the right kind of safety to be suitable for carry in condition 1. CONCEPT GUN: Imagine a metal alloy-framed 1911 style pistol that is shaped like the Tokarev. Stubby grip, full-length slide, long sight radius. Or imagine taking the Tokarev design and changing 3 things about it: 1-- give it a thumb-operated safety in the same position and operating the same way as the familiar 1911 safety. Make it safe to carry in Condition 1 and fast to flick the safety off as you bring the gun to bear on the target. 2-- Make the frame of the Tokarev out of a metal alloy. Maybe the slide instead, or both of them. Do something to take half a pound off its empty weight. 3-- Give the Tokarev modern pistol sights. Big but designed not to snag during the draw. Adjustable rear sight. Put some colors on the sights... maybe three white dots, or an orange dot up front but a white outline for the rear? Something easy to acquire fast in less than ideal light. P.S. CALIBER: I guess this "concept gun" would not be a .45, because of the thickness required for that fat cartridge. So let's say that it would have to be chambered in 9mm or something close to that in physical size.