Concentration camps in China

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by StarJack, Dec 18, 2018.

  1. StarJack

    StarJack Well Aged Member

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    AP finally does a major piece on the re-education and forced labor camps in China.

    https://apnews.com/99016849cddb4b99a048b863b52c28cb


    Anybody seen this on the MSM? Local news? I know, it was rhetorical. They can't blame it directly on Trump so it's not news worthy.
     
  2. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    And yet the world continues to use China as its manufacturing plant.
     

  3. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Have to. Cheap labor.

    Nemo
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    There is some truth to this.

    At the point that is is substantially cheaper to have an article of clothing made in China and shipped here than it is to have it made in North Carolina, then the manufacturer making it in North Carolina is at a disadvantage. Soon he will be out of business unless he also has his items made in China and shipped here.

    That is just a fact of life.

    Shoppers shop based on price.
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    He can buy it from China and close his manufacturing plant. Result: Closed factory.

    He can ignore reality and keep manufacturing in North Carolina, lose sales and lose sales until he no longer can meet expenses and must close his manufacturing plant. Result: Closed factory.
     
  6. Malum Prohibitum

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    Or he can come up with a brilliant marketing campaign, "bad ass clothing" or something similarly silly, have all sorts of tactically themed YouTube videos and military sayings on the clothes, and have sales climb for a few years until the fad wears off and then he must close his factory.
     
  7. Malum Prohibitum

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    Disturbing stuff. I like the interviews with family members with educated professionals (even a doctor) who have been picked up and are, according to China, learning a skill sewing clothing in the camps.
     
  8. NTA

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    Terrorists: nip them in the bud. Will never be legal here.
     
  9. StarJack

    StarJack Well Aged Member

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    Yep, Concentration Camp labor usually is cheaper.
     
  10. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Cheap - slave - labor is but a part of it. A major part is corporate greed which usually benefits only the top management.

    I don't have a source link handy but Karl Denninger at market-ticker.org has shown repeatedly that corporate greed was the overwhelming reason for offshoring manufacturing to places like China and even Mexico. GM was hailed for putting plants in Mexico. They were going to help raise the average Mexican hourly wage from $4 to $20 (numbers are best I can recall). Many years later the average Mexican hourly wage was still $4 and GM was reaping the savings over domestic labor.
     
  11. Mstr-Chris

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    This has always been my argument when people complain about "cheap" Chinese goods instead of manufacturing here in the US. WalMart used to splash "American Made" in their stores but consumers will buy what is more affordable.
     
  12. Wegahe

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    Well most people shop on price. We don't shop at WalMart because of the quality of the products. I find even made in USA merchandise sold by WalMart has a lower quality than the same item sold by other stores. We shop for value which includes the quality.
     
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  13. Wheedle

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    I try to also. Part of my equation is also intended use. If it's something I'll only use once, or I plan on destroying in the use of, quality goes way down in consideration.
     
  14. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Unless it needs to last long enough that I don't get hurt. Then I go with a bit higher quality.

    Nemo
     
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  15. diamondback

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    we could always find a way to use prison labor. Pay a fair wage, but make them pay part of what they make for room and board and for all the babies they make on the dole. WIN/win
     
  16. zetor

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    I'm in favor of them being used for labor that government employees or contractors fill. Wages should be nonexistent. It should be an experience so unpleasant that they would never want to repeat the behavior that landed them there.
     
  17. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    With many products, I can't tell "quality." Therefore, I can only guss at "value." But price is something I can know with certainty. So if I always buy the lowest price thing and I have low expectations for the thing's performance and longevity, I can't be ripped off.

    If I paid 50% more for a product hoping that it would be 50% better in value and 50% better in quality, I might find out, later (after the store return period and factory warranty expired) that it was only 10% better in quality .
     
  18. moe mensale

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    What might happen one day if the democrats socialists manage to have complete control of the federal government? How would they deal with all those "deplorables" who refuse to see the light of full blown socialism? This would be one of two ways I can think of and it would be deemed "legal."
     
  19. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    The problem if you don't agree with it is you were not taught properly about it. There is only one simple thing to do for you.

    Re-education.

    Nemo
     
  20. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Depends who does the re-educating first! :righton: