College Carry

Discussion in 'General GWL Questions' started by Malum Prohibitum, Apr 17, 2007.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    What states do not criminalize carry on college campuses? I'll start.

    Virginia (although the university system has a policy against it)
    Utah
    Oregon
     
  2. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    But aren't the campus penalties enough to make it not feasible for students, faculty, and staff? At least for Virginia, anyway.
     

  3. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Sure. But I want to know what states do not impose criminal penalties. Any qualifiers you want to assert (as I did for Virginia) are fine. If everybody here researched one state, then I bet we would have the answer in less than 24 hours.

    So far:

    Virginia (although the university system has a policy against it)
    Utah
    Oregon


    Is that it?
     
  4. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    I'll do four. According to packing.org:

    Alabama - college carry legal
    Alaska - college carry legal
    Arizona - college carry illegal
    Arkansas - college carry illegal
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks, Rammstein!

    So far:

    Alabama
    Alaska
    Oregon
    Utah
    Virginia


    Is that it?
     
  6. ptsmith24

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    What about Arizona and Arkansas? Forget those in the list, or did I miss something?
     
  7. Rammstein

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    California - college carry illegal
    Colorado - college carry legal
    Connecticut - college carry legal
    Delaware - college carry legal
    Florida - college carry illegal
    Hawaii - college carry probably illegal
    Idaho - school carry is illegal but it doesn't define school
    Illinois - no carry at all
    Indiana - school carry is illegal but it doesn't define school
    Iowa - school carry is illegal but it doesn't define school
    Kansas - college carry legal
    Kentucky - college carry legal
    Louisiana - school carry is illegal but it doesn't define school
    Maine - school carry is illegal but it doesn't define school
    Maryland - school carry is illegal but it doesn't define school
    Massachusetts - college carry illegal except with consent of dean or security chief
    Michigan - college carry legal except in classrooms and dorm rooms
    Minnesota - college carry up to the individual school
    Mississippi - college carry illegal
    Missouri - college carry illegal
    Montana - college carry illegal for state schools
    Nebraska - no information available
    Nevada - college carry illegal
    New Hampshire - college carry legal
    New Jersey - college carry illegal
    New Mexico - college carry illegal
    New York - yeah right
    North Carolina - college carry illegal
    North Dakota - school carry is illegal but it doesn't define school
    Ohio - college carry illegal
    Oklahoma - college carry illegal w/o written consent
    Pennsylvania - college carry legal
    Rhode Island - info not given
    South Carolina - college carry illegal
    South Dakota - college carry legal
    Tennessee - college carry illegal
    Texas - college carry illegal
    Vermont - school carry is illegal but it doesn't define school
    Washington - college carry legal
    West Virginia - college carry legal unless a gunbuster sign in posted
    Wisconsin - no carry at all
    Wyoming - college carry illegal
     
  8. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    He said it was illegal in those states.
     
  9. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks, Rammstein!

    So far:

    Alabama
    Alaska
    Colorado
    Connecticut
    Delaware
    Kansas
    Kentucky
    Michigan
    (except in classrooms and dorm rooms)
    Minnesota (up to the individual school)
    Montana - (private schools only)
    New Hampshire
    Oregon
    Pennsylvania
    South Dakota
    Utah
    Virginia
    (university has policy of banning carry)
    Washington
    West Virginia
    (unless a gunbuster sign in posted)

    Are you sure about California? Wisconsin allows open carry with no license, so it needs to be checked. Is anybody doublechecking or even spot checking Rammstein's work? :D

    18 states?
     
  10. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    I misread it; I see it now.
     
  11. Rammstein

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  12. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    I do not see anything about colleges?
     
  13. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    What is not prohibited is allowed, correct?
     
  14. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    But it's illegal in California, right? So, it would have something about it in the law...
     
  15. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, if it is illegal, then . . .

    It is the premise of this hypothetical syllogism that we are trying to establish. I do not believe Califonia places much of anything off limits by law. As a result, I expect to find that it is legal to carry on a college campus in California.

    Please do try to prove me wrong (this is not the beginning of an argument, I really want you to try so that we can have a rather thorough review of this issue). Same goes for every other state.

    I want this to be reliable information, so I do not want anybody here to simply rely on Rammstein's work. Check up on him, and provide the statutes that comflict with what he states.

    This is going to show up one day on the GCO maps page.
     
  16. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Guys, this needs work if it is going to show up on GCO's Maps page.

    A benefit of having so many people is that they can doublecheck each other and split up the work.

    Pick one state and research this issue. :D

    packing.org and handgunlaw.us (?) are two good starting points, and they provide links to the law to let you check on the actual original sources.

    There are over 400 registered users here. Even if everybody just picked one, that would mean that 8 people were researching each state . . . well, more, since Georgia needs no research. Alabama, Oregon, Utah, and Virginia need no research (I have personally checked these states' statutes).

    Let's look at the may issue and no issue states, too (because, for example, Wisconsin is a no issue state but has no law against carrying openly without a license). States like California are may issue, but in some counties it is easy to get a license and the license is good even in the counties that issue no licenses.

    May issue or shall issue is not the issue (forgive the pun), but we seek to know whether and which states prohibit carry on college campuses.

    This information will be VERY useful next year. In other words, this is not simply an academic exercise.

    Please make an effort to research one state thoroughly and to the best of your ability.

    Rammstein has done a very good job of providing the initial "once over," and letting the rest of us know whether it is thumbs up or down. Let's make sure he is correct, and get the information in detail for each state.
     
  17. Mastino177

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    A .38 or better in a Smart Carry would have ended this guy's rampage.
     
  18. Malum Prohibitum

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    I will do North Carolina... Give me till this weekend...
     
  20. Rammstein

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    I'll start verifing my own work...

    One question though. For the states that just say school and do not define it as K-12 are we to assume that the statute is all-encompassing and post-secondary institutions are included in the ban?