[Jmark]

A Swiss Army knife. :roll:

Zero Tolerance= Zero Intelligence

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14043836/detail.html

 

[ICP_Juggalo]

Thanks for posting this Jmark.

This particular situation may not be "gun related" but I think it's important to bring forth and show how damaging O.C.G.A. 16-11-127.1 can be to someone with no criminal intent. This is really bad law, more worse than the "public gathering" law in some respects IMHO.

16-11-127.1 should be completely re-written, if not repealed.

 

[gunsmoker]

Activist Court

What we need here is an activist court to re-interpret the law, so that they announce it doesn't really mean ANY knife with a blade over 2 inches, but rather any knife that is a weapon whose blade is over 2", or any other edged weapon designed and marketed as a weapon, or possessed with the intent to use same as a weapon (as constrasted with use as a tool).

The way the law is currently written, a cheap plastic disposable knife, the kind you get at a fast-food restaurant along with a spork and little packages of salt and pepper, can earn you this 10-year felony conviction.

 

[Mike from Philly]

Re: Activist Court

a cheap plastic disposable knife,

My wife was a student teacher at a Cobb Public School She brought in a cake to the classroom to celebrate some achievement of the kids. Along with the cake came a PLASTIC cake cutter that Publix included in the box. The cake cutter is a combination spatula and edge tool. When her lead teacher saw it, she cleared the kids out of the room to the hallway and pressed the panic button. The school resource officer came in and confiscated the 'weapon'.

My wife was counseled that she had violated the law bringing in that cake cutter by the school principal. They also notified her University of the infraction. All of the student teachers that worked in this school were offered jobs at the end of the program except for one. Yep, the dreaded cake cutter cost my wife a job. From the sound of things, we are lucky she wasn't arrested.

To be honest, I'm grateful she didn't get a job there. The district doesn't deserve to have a good teacher like my wife working for them.

 

[ptsmith24]

Re: Activist Court

a cheap plastic disposable knife,

My wife was a student teacher at a Cobb Public School She brought in a cake to the classroom to celebrate some achievement of the kids. Along with the cake came a PLASTIC cake cutter that Publix included in the box. The cake cutter is a combination spatula and edge tool. When her lead teacher saw it, she cleared the kids out of the room to the hallway and pressed the panic button. The school resource officer came in and confiscated the 'weapon'.

My wife was counseled that she had violated the law bringing in that cake cutter by the school principal. They also notified her University of the infraction. All of the student teachers that worked in this school were offered jobs at the end of the program except for one. Yep, the dreaded cake cutter cost my wife a job. From the sound of things, we are lucky she wasn't arrested.

To be honest, I'm grateful she didn't get a job there. The district doesn't deserve to have a good teacher like my wife working for them.

That's nuckin' futs! :evil:

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Re: Activist Court

a cheap plastic disposable knife,

My wife was a student teacher at a Cobb Public School She brought in a cake to the classroom to celebrate some achievement of the kids. Along with the cake came a PLASTIC cake cutter that Publix included in the box. The cake cutter is a combination spatula and edge tool. When her lead teacher saw it, she cleared the kids out of the room to the hallway and pressed the panic button. The school resource officer came in and confiscated the 'weapon'.

My wife was counseled that she had violated the law bringing in that cake cutter by the school principal. They also notified her University of the infraction. All of the student teachers that worked in this school were offered jobs at the end of the program except for one. Yep, the dreaded cake cutter cost my wife a job. From the sound of things, we are lucky she wasn't arrested.

To be honest, I'm grateful she didn't get a job there. The district doesn't deserve to have a good teacher like my wife working for them.

WHY IS THIS NOT YET AN ARTICLE SUBMITTED TO THE GCO NEWSLETTER!?!?

 

[Jmark]

Re: Activist Court

Snip*

Sometimes people just need a swift kick in the nuts to make them think a little clearer.

 

[Mike from Philly]

Re: Activist Court

WHY IS THIS NOT YET AN ARTICLE SUBMITTED TO THE GCO NEWSLETTER!?!?

I had to promise my wife to not to implicate her work (education) in my gun and political activism. I'm not allowed to attend School Board meetings nor write editorials about the schools. I can't mention my activism when we go to school functions.

In her experience, she found educators and administrators to be very vindictive. As a new teacher starting later in life, she feels quite insecure. This was a long way to say, I can't. My wife will kill me.

I should note that the dreaded cake cutter incident wasn't the only time she got in trouble in her education program. She once read a book with the word "bitch" in it to her 4th grade class. "Bitch" was referring to a female dog in heat. I think the book was The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. Immediately after she said the dreaded "bitch" word, she was told to go to the Principal. Her punishment was that she wasn't allowed to return to the classroom after that. She spent 4 weeks floating between other classes in order to get her training time in. In addition, she wasn't allowed to return to that same school for her second in-school training phase.

As a result of this nonsense, my daughter goes to private school with a leadership that possess common sense to tell the difference between a cake cutter and a real threat.

 

[Cavediver]

Re: Activist Court

As a result of this nonsense, my daughter goes to private school with a leadership that possess common sense to tell the difference between a cake cutter and a real threat.

See, the rules do make good things happen

Mike, I feel your pain. My wife is a high school teacher. She's told me a lot about the school system, most of it is totally absurd. It really frustrates me that she can't try to fix the problems without drawing the wrath of those higher-up. Obviously it's not just her problem; the kids are suffering through the consequences of these policies. If I had a child, he or she would attend private school whatever the expense. It's not the fault of the teachers or the faculty, it's the rules and laws that we (the general public, not pointing fingers ) have asked for or accepted without voicing our opinions.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it...

 

[fallison]

Re: Activist Court

it's the rules and laws that we (the general public, not pointing fingers ) have asked for or accepted without voicing our opinions....

Or had shoved down our throats by five of our nine black robed Emperors.

 

[AV8R]

Meanwhile, those of us who home school are walking gingerly with our hands in our pockets whistling Dixie.

Zero Tolerance= Zero Intelligence

:exactly:

 

[GAGunOwner]

I saw this on the news, it is so bogus.

Anyway, I wonder how/why they searched this student's car?

 

[ICP_Juggalo]

I remember clearly when this law was enacted in 1992. I was in the seventh grade and remember the teachers going through the student handbooks addressing this issue. The student handbook had the entire text of the law and also the school policy which stated it was zero tolerance. I even remember the school administered punishment for infractions.

1st offense resulted in suspension for 20 days.
2nd offense resulted in expulsion for remainder of the school year. You did, however, have the option to make up the school year in summer school.
3rd offense resulted in permanent explulsion from the county school system.

I almost got subjected to this horrendus law. I used to wear a bullet keychain around my neck. Someone complained about it and I was escorted to the principal's office. The police were called and my dad was notified. The police came and took my keychain bullet to determine if it was real or not. Once it was determined that my keychain was harmless, I was sent back to class. My dad threaten to sue the school system back into the stone age for this BS.

This was Cobb County School System BTW.

 

[Thorsen]

I had a conversation with someone about this today. The person I spoke with is "mostly" pro-second amendment, in that they do agree with me that "gun free zones" are really disarmament zones. And she also believes that people have a right to protect themself and their family and even to carry a firearm (with some restrictions - why I say mostly pro-second).

Sounds like someone who would look at this and agree with most of us that this is a school system out of control, right? Nope.

She said that kids have no self-control and can not be trusted even with a swiss army knife that remains in their vehicle. She gave a lot of anecdotal evidence concerning her son to back up her claim and when I pointed out that this kid is now facing a felony conviction and if tried as an adult would lose his right to vote, possibly lose college loans, would face discrimination in employment due to a felony conviction and basically would have his life ruined, she simply shrugged it off. According to her that is what is necessary to keep our schools safe.

Boggled my mind. I think I actually just stared at her and shook my head before walking off.

 

[fallison]

Meanwhile, those of us who home school are walking gingerly with our hands in our pockets whistling Dixie.

Zero Tolerance= Zero Intelligence

:exactly:

Yeah, you should see the arsenal of guns and knives at my kids' school.
8)

 

[Mike from Philly]

Sounds like someone who would look at this and agree with most of us that this is a school system out of control, right?

You won't find a bigger collection arrogant fools than in the Cobb School District. I was told directly by former superintendant Redden that my neighborhood couldn't be districted to a closer school because we were white.

Fast forward in time, and here they are again. This time destroying a young man's future over a tool kept in his car. The Cobb DA is pretty good so he may decline to prosecute. Obviously, we also need to change 127.1 as well.

 

[AV8R]

Meanwhile, those of us who home school are walking gingerly with our hands in our pockets whistling Dixie.

Zero Tolerance= Zero Intelligence

:exactly:

Yeah, you should see the arsenal of guns and knives at my kids' school.
8)

We need organize a field trip to an outdoor shooting range. I want to bring this up at our HS co-op, but I need a little more time to feel out the folks there.

 

[GAGunOwner]

While the school system and the police should have had more common sense the blame for this falls directly on the General Assembly for passing 16-11-127.1.

 

[fallison]

Meanwhile, those of us who home school are walking gingerly with our hands in our pockets whistling Dixie.

Zero Tolerance= Zero Intelligence

:exactly:

Yeah, you should see the arsenal of guns and knives at my kids' school.
8)

We need organize a field trip to an outdoor shooting range. I want to bring this up at our HS co-op, but I need a little more time to feel out the folks there.

If you don't mind traveling up this way, the gun club I belong to has an outdoor range.
http://chatugegunclub.org/
We actually have members from down that way (well Cleveland anyway that I know of). At $60 for the first year and $35 annually after that, you get a key to the gate and can use the range whenever you want. From the prices I have seen for range time on here, it doesn't take many trips to pay for itself even with gas as high as it is.

 

[budder]

Sounds like someone who would look at this and agree with most of us that this is a school system out of control, right?

You won't find a bigger collection arrogant fools than in the Cobb School District.

Someone hasn't been to the Global Warming thread...