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Bkite said:
The majority are for less taxes...the majority is for no amnesty...the majority is for gun rights... I hope they win out...
Today. Maybe. With no "emergency."

What about tomorrow?

I hope liberty wins out. Whether the majority agrees with liberty on any particular day should not really matter.
 

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Bkite said:
The minority is for no prayer in schools...socialism etc..
Democracy always ends in socialism, BKite. Always.

Check out the majority view on social security. :wink:
 

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hillba said:
Those BB guns can be dangerous, just ask Ralphy he would have shot his eye out if it wasnt for his glasses
There are some "bb guns that project a projectile at 1200 fps....could do damage..just saying...
 

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Sooo no democracy...no rule by law...what are you advocating?
Liberty. Tough concept. Punish those who harm others, whether by force or by fraud. Leave alone those with whom you merely disagree.

It was all in my first post. You just needed to read it.

Touching a BB gun harms nobody. It was not even a threat to harm anybody. The police admitted as much. I hope we can get back on topic now.
 

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Bkite said:
Sooo no democracy...no rule by law...what are you advocating?
Liberty. Tough concept. Punish those who harm others, whether by force or by fraud. Leave alone those with whom you merely disagree.

It was all in my first post. You just needed to read it.

Touching a BB gun harms nobody. It was not even a threat to harm anybody. The police admitted as much. I hope we can get back on topic now.
We can as my previous was my last seeing as how germane ideas are not adressed...touche(?)
 

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Rule of law means that the law applies equally to everybody. This would mean that police and military and superior court clerks and judges and coroners would have to follow the same gun laws as everybody else. Neat concept, but we hardly have it. It has nothing to do with mob rule.
 

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Bkite said:
Malum Prohibitum said:
Bkite said:
Sooo no democracy...no rule by law...what are you advocating?
Liberty. Tough concept. Punish those who harm others, whether by force or by fraud. Leave alone those with whom you merely disagree.

It was all in my first post. You just needed to read it.

Touching a BB gun harms nobody. It was not even a threat to harm anybody. The police admitted as much. I hope we can get back on topic now.
We can as my previous was my last seeing as how germane ideas are not adressed...touche(?)
I do not understand your post, except that you think I failed to address something you said. I have no idea what it is. If it has something to do with a BB gun, then post it in this thread, and I will try to answer it later. If not, and it is something about the mob rule you love so much that I failed to address, then please post a new thread, and I will try to answer it later. Thanks.
 

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hillba said:
Those BB guns can be dangerous, just ask Ralphy he would have shot his eye out if it wasnt for his glasses
There are some "bb guns that project a projectile at 1200 fps....could do damage..just saying...
A few years ago some kids would cruise the freeway loop around a big city in Texas and shoot out the windows of nearby cars. The windows almost always completely shattered. The city was gripped with terror for several weeks. Cops caught them, it was a bb pistol of some kind.

They are a lot more powerful than when I was a kid.
 

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It is the way most people think, unfortunately. .
So majority thought should not rule?....
No the majority should not rule. Majorities are evil plain and simple. That is the reason we are a Republic and not a democracy.

As for the OP, zero tolerance and all the BS that goes with it, needs to be struck down, but of course it is our government schools at work...
 

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For the BB gun at school, I think it should be death! Who do these people think they are... I don't care if its a toy...

They must be made an example of... off with their heads.

Geeze, can you say an anti-gun agenda, here? It was a freaking BB gun for goodness sakes!

You'll shoot your eye out!
 

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Laws, laws, laws !
I remember back in the day, some off us kept our weapons in our trucks, at school, and, carried a big ole buck on our hips. I can not, ever, remember one incident, where any of the above where ever used at school, at least where I grew up and went to school at.
It is the "inner city" culture that our goofy politicians use to produce these ridiculous laws that we now have on the books. We need to stop punishing the innocent, for what the guilty will forever continue to do. Deal with the person, not the object. Common sense would, (or should have), dictated calling their parents, having the bb gun removed from the premises and the kids talked to about this. Not ruining their lives over a simple bb gun.
Lumping everything that "propels a projectile" or "any sharp object" with a machine gun is ridiculous.
Weed out the bad people and let the good people alone, not with laws, but with common sense.
You are not allowed to discipline your children for not following your rules, but the government is allowed to discipline your children for not following the government's rules ?
 

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Again a situation I'm torn on... and this might be because I worked Juvenile Corrections in Florida...

The two kids charged were 17 years old. They knew it's against the law to bring any type of firearm to their school REGARDLESS of the type of firearm. They did so anyways. They got caught and now have to face the consequences.

If they were stupid enough to break the law, even if that law sucks in the eyes of many, then they don't deserve to have their butts bailed out.
A bb gun is not a firearm.
 

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Bkite said:
hillba said:
Those BB guns can be dangerous, just ask Ralphy he would have shot his eye out if it wasnt for his glasses
There are some "bb guns that project a projectile at 1200 fps....could do damage..just saying...
So what? In my day, the girls at JHS p.e. got to shoot bows. Would you rather get shot with a target-point arrow at 140ish fps or a 1200fps bb? I vote for the bb.

Edit add: My point is the sillyness has gone too far, with the prohibition against drawing guns, no knives, etc. I carried a switchblade comb as a kid, and nowadays that would be newsworthy, apparently.
 

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Hock25 said:
A bb gun is not a firearm.
It doesn't matter if it is or not. Regardless, what matters is the kids acted like idiots and disregarded the law which they KNEW they would be in violation of. They knew they could get into trouble but they decided to do it anyways. I have no sympathy for that. Just my opinion and I know it doesn't mean anything, but that's my belief on this.
 

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Hock25 said:
A bb gun is not a firearm.
It doesn't matter if it is or not. Regardless, what matters is the kids acted like idiots and disregarded the law which they KNEW they would be in violation of. They knew they could get into trouble but they decided to do it anyways. I have no sympathy for that. Just my opinion and I know it doesn't mean anything, but that's my belief on this.
I'd think perhaps the kid that brought the bb gun to school should get detention, at the extreme, and the others, nothing. Then again, I'm from a different era, and I expect kids to shoot bb guns. Rules or laws, a felony charge for that is silly, touchy-feely, libtardedness.
 

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Hock25 said:
Arkimedes said:
Hock25 said:
A bb gun is not a firearm.
It doesn't matter if it is or not. Regardless, what matters is the kids acted like idiots and disregarded the law which they KNEW they would be in violation of. They knew they could get into trouble but they decided to do it anyways. I have no sympathy for that. Just my opinion and I know it doesn't mean anything, but that's my belief on this.
I'd think perhaps the kid that brought the bb gun to school should get detention, at the extreme, and the others, nothing. Then again, I'm from a different era, and I expect kids to shoot bb guns. Rules or laws, a felony charge for that is silly, touchy-feely, libtardedness.
Sorry if I'm playing devils advocate here. And I even stated that the law stinks. In the end though, it's still a law. And I do know where you're coming from. I used to shoot bb guns, I play Paintball to this day, and know that kids should be kids. I also think that they should learn responsibilty alongside that. The boys in this case didn't show that though.

I dunno.......
 

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My how time have changed. :( I went to Berkmar High School, (Gwinnett county) graduated in 1986. We actually had a PE class called "Shooter Sports. Yep, we fired BB guns and Archery on school property with BB rifles and Bows/arrows provided by the county. :lol:
 

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Bkite said:
Sooo no democracy...no rule by law...what are you advocating?
Who said no rule of law? MP is using "democracy" in the technical sense, not the "common misconception" sense.

Here' some further study for you...

inkdaddy said:
...BB guns annually injure as many as 21,000 Americans, many of them children, according to a study in the November issue of Pediatrics.

Nonpowder guns kill an average of four Americans yearly, and from 1990 to 2000, there were 39 such deaths -- 32 of children younger than 15, the study found.

Nationally, an estimated 21,840 injuries related to nonpowder guns were treated in emergency departments in 2000 -- most in children ages 5 to 14, according to a report prepared by the American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on Injury, Violence and Poison Prevention.
Similar things can be said for hammers and automobiles. It doesn't make them firearms.

Hock25 said:
A bb gun is not a firearm.
Exactly.
 
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