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Discussion in 'In the News' started by Malum Prohibitum, Mar 26, 2007.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    I was interviewed about the recent Roanoke Times debacle by Kyung Lah of CNN on Friday at Vinney's Italian Restaurant in Midlothian. The restaurant was very hospitable, setting us up in a large corner so that all the camera equipment could be spread out.

    The interview went very well and was done professionally. Ms. Lah asked some of the questions that were posed by Mr. Trejbal in his article - such as, "Don't I have a right to know if you are carrying a gun?"

    I had been standing up talking to Ms. Lah for couple of minutes after I arrived. She looked at me and said, "Since you have a concealed handgun permit, aren't you allowed to transport a handgun?"

    I said, "Yes."

    She said, "Er, do you have one in the car then?"

    I said, "No, but I have one on my hip."

    A little embarrassed for not having noticed, she then looked down and saw that I was open carrying.

    I explained Virginia Law to her about having to open carry in restaurants that have a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption.

    THE ROANOKE TIMES AND CHRISTIAN TREJBAL ARE HYPOCRITES!

    This is TOO good! I asked Ms. Lah if someone was going to interview the Roanoke Times management and Christian Trejbal (the columnist who wrote the story about Virginia 'sunshine' laws, and who obtained and helped publish the CHP holder list).

    Ms. Lah said that BOTH Mr. Trejbal AND the Roanoke Times Management are REFUSING TO BE INTERVIEWED!!!!!!!!

    What about all that 'sunshine,' you were celebrating Mr. Trejbal?
    What about it Roanoke Times? Surely you would want to lead the way by letting a little light shine on the damage that you did by publishing the CHP holder list?

    I got a real chuckle when she told me about their refusal.

    I guess I have been doing this too long as I wasn't surprised. I have dealt with people like Mr. Trejbal many times before.

    ANOTHER VCDL MEMBER TO BE INTERVIEWED

    Ms. Lah is also going to interview a parole officer who had THREE parolees show up at his residence, one while only his wife and child were at home! All three admitted to getting his address from the list published on the Internet by the Roanoke Times.

    THANKS TO THOSE OF YOU WHO VOLUNTEER THEIR STORIES

    Thanks to those who volunteered to be interviewed. I shared your stories with Ms. Lah and some of your emails will probably be used in the story. Ms. Lah assured me that your name and other private or identifying information will be redacted when emails are shown on screen. Only the part of the email that talks about how your life has been endangered will be highlighted and visible to make the point.

    WATCH THE PAULA ZAHN SHOW ON MONDAY AT 8 PM!

    The story is going to air THIS Monday at 8 PM EST on the Paula Zahn show on CNN.

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    VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL).
    VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The membership considers the Right to Keep and Bear Arms to be an essential human right.
     
  2. Doc Holliday

    Doc Holliday New Member

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    Sweet! I will be watching tonight. Can somebody start a thread about this on CombatCarry.com. I can't login there at work (Dang internet censors!) and I am sure that many will be interested to watch.
     

  3. Mike from Philly

    Mike from Philly New Member

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    Ed, were you interviewed? I hope you were wearing a better tie than normal.
     
  4. Watch_Their_Hands

    Watch_Their_Hands New Member

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    Excellent. I will watch. =D>
     
  5. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    Please tell me she got the bit about not noticing the openly carried pistol on camera.


    ....wait....who was interviewed?
     
  6. USMC - Retired

    USMC - Retired New Member

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    I'm fairly certain that MP was reposting something from another site or an email and just left off the quote blocks. Sure makes it confusing though...
     
  7. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    Ah.

    I got to the bottom and saw the VCDL alert and said to myself "...wait....who did this happen to?..."
     
  8. mzmtg

    mzmtg Active Member

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    It was Phillip Van Cleave, President of VCDL, that was interviewed.
     
  9. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    The show has been moved to Friday night at 8:00.

    Sorry for the confusion - I thought the VCDL Alert language at the bottom made it clear.
     
  10. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/trejb ... /xp-110226

    So everyone's safety comes second to Trejbal's politics? Well, at
    least he is consistent in his view that the world revolves around him.

    We still need another one hundred people to sign up for a VCDL
    license plate (you do so on the VCDL web site), before we can order
    them.

    Don't you know that Trejbal would love to see one of those license
    plates in front of him as he is driving down the road! ;-)

    Here is the Roanoke Times' explanation of their actions on publishing
    the CHP holder database:

    http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/wb/110214

    Lessons learned in database incident
    More discussion and thought should have gone into the decision to
    publish a database of concealed carry holders in the state.

    We heard from literally thousands of people after our decision two
    weeks ago to post an online database of people in the state permitted
    to carry concealed handguns. Many people presented rational
    objections.

    Many others responded with personal threats of violence and acts of
    intimidation -- responses we declined to publish.

    The difficulty we've faced since is how to respond to the rational
    objections without validating the abusive tactics and attacks waged
    against this newspaper and the columnist who wrote a piece linked to
    the database.

    Amid the firestorm of criticism, we've re-examined our
    decision-making process and reflected on the valid criticisms.

    We've come to some conclusions.

    First, we had a legal right to post the database. These were public
    records, legally obtained.

    In some journalistic circles, that would be enough. The Washington
    Post's Marc Fisher praised the decision to post the information and
    accused The Roanoke Times of caving in to criticism when we decided
    to pull the database.

    [Egads! Using Marc Fisher, of all people, to justify doing anything
    that you are claiming is rational, is truly an act of desperation.
    This continues to show just how out of touch the Roanoke Times really
    is. - PVC]

    But upon reflection, we wish we had more fully discussed the
    potential ramifications before we made this decision. Dozens of
    concealed permit holders expressed heartfelt fear because of the
    exposure of what they believed was private information.

    We gave insufficient thought and discussion to the potential that
    crime victims, law enforcement officers and domestic violence victims
    might be put at risk if their addresses were published.

    Though many of our critics believe that the database handed burglars
    a shopping list of households with guns and abusers a list of their
    victims, no one can point to a single incident where similar
    publications led to a crime.

    But we didn't know that until after the database was published. The
    potential for harm is something we should have given far greater
    thought to in making the decision.

    For our failure to do so, The Roanoke Times apologizes.

    We also regret that there was not a more compelling public purpose --
    beyond illustrating how the Freedom of Information Act works --
    behind the decision to post the database.

    There are vital reasons these records should remain open.

    But those reasons were not well illuminated -- or even particularly
    well served -- by the publication of the entire database.

    The public should be able to monitor how well various jurisdictions
    screen concealed carry applicants.

    So, yes, we made mistakes. The process for vetting this decision was
    not as thorough as it should have been.

    Those mistakes, though, in no way justify the outrageous and
    threatening nature of much of the response. Very early on, a rational
    discussion of this issue became all but impossible.

    It was extremely important that we not allow the unacceptable antics
    of the fringe to distract us from a careful examination of our own
    decision-making.

    We want to assure our readers that, where we erred, we will strive
    not to repeat our mistakes. And we will continue to advocate
    passionately for the free flow of information that is the lifeblood
    of an open society.
     
  11. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    VCDL license plate?!

    I want a GCO license plate!
     
  12. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

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    I'll be at a wedding rehersal dinner Fri night. I'll have to set the Tivo.
     
  13. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    So it is definitely on Friday now?
     
  14. Sharky

    Sharky New Member

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    Hopefully Friday is the last move. Dont want to miss recording this.
     
  15. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    From VCDL
     
  16. GeorgiaGlocker

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    I knew CNN (Clinton News Network) would try something.
     
  17. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Received today.
     
  18. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    Thanks for the up date.
     
  19. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Now I just have to remember to turn on the TV.