Cleveland Sues State of OH over gun laws

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by Adam5, Mar 14, 2007.

  1. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

    Cleveland Sues State Over Gun Law
    Concealed weapons debate

    March 14, 2007 - Cleveland fighting state revision to concealed weapons law
    CLEVELAND (AP) - The city sued the state on Wednesday, challenging a revision to Ohio's 3-year-old law allowing people to carry concealed guns, arguing it is unconstitutional and infringes on cities' abilities to make their own laws.

    "What's at stake here is our ability to put laws in place that are in the best interest of our citizens," Mayor Frank Jackson said.

    The city's suit asks Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court to determine the revision violates the Ohio Constitution and that the Legislature overstepped its bounds.

    Jackson said several Cleveland gun laws appear to be made unenforceable because the revised state law overrides them.

    The revision went into effect on Wednesday, and allows motorists to carry concealed guns in their cars and trucks. Previously, the guns had to be either locked up or in plain sight. The other major change was that the law wiped out local gun-control ordinances in cities such as Cincinnati, Cleveland and Columbus, which all had banned possession of assault rifles.

    Lawmakers made the change because of concerns that the earlier version of the state law was inconsistent, allowing permit-holders to carry hidden guns on the street but not in their cars.

    The city's lawsuit mentions part of the state law which says that, except for federal and state gun control requirements, a person does not need further licenses to own, possess, sell or keep a firearm.

    "Our gun laws were created to protect our children, preserve quality of life and create greater safety and security," Jackson said.

    In a memo to Columbus city licensing officials, Columbus Public Safety Director Mitch Brown said Wednesday that Columbus will no longer enforce its ban on assault weapons.

    Brown said state law now "is simply poor public policy that makes Ohio residents and our public safety forces more susceptible to deadly gun violence, especially from assault weapons. Nevertheless, we must adhere to the dictates of the Legislature."

    Jennifer Brindisi, spokeswoman in the office of Attorney General Marc Dann, said Dann's staff examined Cleveland's complaint and was not aware of any other city going to court over the concealed weapons law.

    "The attorney general is confident that the General Assembly's revisions to Ohio's laws, regarding the licensing and carrying of concealed handguns, will be upheld," she said. "The state laws are part of a comprehensive statewide plan that seeks to protect both the public and the rights of gun owners."

    Toby Hoover, director of Toledo-based Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence, said she expects other cities, concerned local firearms laws are now pre-empted, may be considering similar court action or join in Cleveland's case.

    Jeff Garvas, president of Cleveland-based Ohioans for Concealed Carry, said the revisions made gun control in Ohio more reasonable for those who wish to legally own or carry a firearm.

    "The problem we have had is that every time you would pass the border of a community the laws could change on you," Garvas said. He said Cleveland laws made it more difficult for law abiding people to own or carry a gun.
  2. jgullock

    jgullock Active Member

    Oh no, this is the green light the criminals have been waiting for. Now assault rifles (whatever those are) will be used to knock off every 7-11 in the city. The horror...

  3. geaux_tigers

    geaux_tigers Member


    That's great: infringes on their ability to make laws. That's the whole point! I bet there are a whole that more laws that do the same ... like I bet the Mayor can't setup a toll booth on every interestate coming into his city or declare himself supreme ruler of all the land. Well I guess he could declare himself supreme ruler ... but he'd get one of those neat white jackets with the extra long arms that fasten in the back....
  4. Doc Holliday

    Doc Holliday New Member

    Well this is coming from the city that had Dennis Kucinich as mayor. If you aren't sure who that me he is a Liberal Democrat that was abducted by extra-terristrials.

    Here is his 2008 Presidential platform:

    Creating a single-payer system of universal health care that provides full coverage for all Americans.
    The immediate withdrawal of all U.S. forces from Iraq and replacing them with an international security force.
    Guaranteed quality education for all, including free pre-kindergarten and college for all who want it.
    Immediate withdrawal from the World Trade Organization (WTO) and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).
    Repealing the USA PATRIOT Act.
    Fostering a world of international cooperation.
    Abolishing the death penalty.
    Environmental renewal and clean energy.
    Preventing the privatization of social security.
    Providing full social security benefits at age 65.
    Creating a cabinet-level "Department of Peace"
    Ratifying the ABM Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
    Introducing reforms to bring about instant-runoff voting.
    Protecting a woman's right to choose while decreasing the number of abortions performed in the U.S.
    Ending the war on drugs.
    Legalizing same-sex marriage.
    Creating a balance between workers and corporations.
    Ending the H1B and L3 Visa Programs
    Restoring rural communities and family farms.

    Although it doesn't say it...I'd be willing to bet the farm that he would like to take away your RKABA.
  5. Macktee

    Macktee New Member


    Oh yeah!

    We knew it was coming.

    It never fails to happen.

    Whenever people want to censor, limit, control or prohibit the actions of others, they always claim they're doing so to protect the children...

    What unmitigated :bsflag: