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The idea that the Second Amendment protects only a right to possess weapons as part of state-regulated militias is a twentieth century invention--as my book For the Defense of Themselves and the State: The Original Intent and Judicial Interpretation of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (Praeger Press, 1994) demonstrates.
 

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handguns were commonly owned in 1791 when the states ratified the Second Amendment. In my research for Armed America: The Remarkable Story of How and Why Guns Became as American as Apple Pie (Nelson Current, 2007), I have been surprised at how little regulation of handguns there was. In the entire period before the War of 1812, I could find only one difference between how handguns were regulated, and other firearms. During the American Revolution, Tories were often disarmed of long guns, partly because they weren't trusted, and partly because those guns were needed to arm the poorest members of the militia. But handguns were often exempted from those confiscations.
 

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Has anyone ever done a study that compared increases in violent crime nationwide with increases in gun control laws?

At one time, there were very few gun control laws in this country and, I would guess, there was relatively little violent crime. Now there are many many laws and violent crime is high.

I saw a photo last week of a distant relative in a formal photo. Probably about a century old. He was posed sitting in a chair, dressed in his Sunday best with a holstered revolver in the 0100 position.

The photo gave me the impression that OC was as natural as wearing a belt in those days.
 

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1911packer said:
Has anyone ever done a study that compared increases in violent crime nationwide with increases in gun control laws?

At one time, there were very few gun control laws in this country and, I would guess, there was relatively little violent crime. Now there are many many laws and violent crime is high.

I saw a photo last week of a distant relative in a formal photo. Probably about a century old. He was posed sitting in a chair, dressed in his Sunday best with a holstered revolver in the 0100 position.

The photo gave me the impression that OC was as natural as wearing a belt in those days.
I beleive the CDC did one and found no relation. Gun control laws did not raise or lower the crime rate, nor did carry laws increase or decrease the violent crime rate.
 

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1911packer said:
Has anyone ever done a study that compared increases in violent crime nationwide with increases in gun control laws?

At one time, there were very few gun control laws in this country and, I would guess, there was relatively little violent crime. Now there are many many laws and violent crime is high.

I saw a photo last week of a distant relative in a formal photo. Probably about a century old. He was posed sitting in a chair, dressed in his Sunday best with a holstered revolver in the 0100 position.

The photo gave me the impression that OC was as natural as wearing a belt in those days.
I beleive the CDC did one and found no relation. Gun control laws did not raise or lower the crime rate, nor did carry laws increase or decrease the violent crime rate.
Well, as long as a government agency did the study, that's good enough for me.
 

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1911packer, it doesn't answer your question directly but the Small Arms Survey (very anti group) just released a report that found the higher per capita gun ownership in a country the lower the level of violence. The US has the highest per capita and the lowest violent crime rate.

If you're interested you can search for it here on GPDO.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
handguns were commonly owned in 1791 when the states ratified the Second Amendment. In my research for Armed America: The Remarkable Story of How and Why Guns Became as American as Apple Pie (Nelson Current, 2007), I have been surprised at how little regulation of handguns there was. In the entire period before the War of 1812, I could find only one difference between how handguns were regulated, and other firearms. During the American Revolution, Tories were often disarmed of long guns, partly because they weren't trusted, and partly because those guns were needed to arm the poorest members of the militia. But handguns were often exempted from those confiscations.
Did I mention that people should read this book?
 

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:lol: never heard DC called the District of Criminals before.
That's because the media hides the truth (or anything that's not PC).
 

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:lol: never heard DC called the District of Criminals before.
That's because the media hides the truth (or anything that's not PC).
I lived inside the Beltway for a while (in Maryland) and it is a very uncomfortable feeling. Going into the District in the winter when there a few tourists feels really exposed.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
[quote="Malum Prohibitum":252coe54]handguns were commonly owned in 1791 when the states ratified the Second Amendment. In my research for Armed America: The Remarkable Story of How and Why Guns Became as American as Apple Pie (Nelson Current, 2007), I have been surprised at how little regulation of handguns there was. In the entire period before the War of 1812, I could find only one difference between how handguns were regulated, and other firearms. During the American Revolution, Tories were often disarmed of long guns, partly because they weren't trusted, and partly because those guns were needed to arm the poorest members of the militia. But handguns were often exempted from those confiscations.
Did I mention that people should read this book?[/quote:252coe54]

Well, in case I did not, you should.
 
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