Castle Doctrine

Discussion in 'GA Laws and Politics' started by ki4dmh, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. ki4dmh

    ki4dmh New Member

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    I did a search on this and found a thread a couple of years old. Does Ga. have a Castle Doctrine law and can somebody point me to the Ga. code? Thanks.
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  2. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    http://www.georgiapacking.org/GaCode/?title=16&chapter=3&section=23.1

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  3. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    The link at the top of this page is a valuable resource for future reference. Gun Laws
     
  4. ki4dmh

    ki4dmh New Member

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    Thanks for the help.
    Scott
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    And there is more - immuity laws and such. :wink:
     
  6. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    No problem. :welcome: , by the way. How did you hear about us? Gun show? Google?

    edit: I see you've been here a little while, just haven't posted. :)
     
  7. Boy Racer

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    Forgive me, I'm still learning all this. Is it true the statute reads that if some punks are smashing out the windows in my truck in the parking lot, and I happen to see it happening, I can run out there with a firearm and stop them with lethal force?
     
  8. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    That's my understanding, but I wouldn't do so. Something like that will not hold up well in court.
     
  9. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    Well, you could confront them armed (concealed or open or whatever) and then if they attack you for intervening... :shoot: At that point, you'd be more in fear for your life, right?
     
  10. moga

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    Just in case you find this happening? :shock:

    Dat blame Eco-terrorists. People are nuckin futz these days.

    Vandals Attack Man's Hummer, Leave Note

    http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/Feature_Stories/ODD_Hummer_Vandalized.html?imw=Y

    July 18, 2007 - 11:03 p.m. Copyright 2007, The Associated Press.

    WASHINGTON — When Gareth Groves brought home his massive new Hummer, he knew his environmentally friendly neighbors disapproved. But he didn't expect what happened next. The sport utility vehicle was parked for five days on the street before two masked men smashed the windows, slashed the tires and scratched into the body: "FOR THE ENVIRON."

    "The thought of somebody vandalizing it never crossed my mind," said Gareth Groves, who lives near American University in Northwest Washington. "I've kind of been in shock."

    Police said they see small acts of vandalism in the area from time to time, but they have not seen anything so severe, or with such a clear political message, in recent years.

    "This seems to be an isolated event," Cmdr. Andy Solberg said.

    Investigators said they are searching for the vandals but don't have many leads. Witnesses said they saw two men smash up the seven-foot-tall SUV early Monday and then run off.

    Now, as Groves contemplates what to do with the remains of his $38,000 Hummer, he has had to deal with a number of people who have driven by the crime scene and glared at him in smug satisfaction.

    "I'd say one in five people who come by have that 'you-got-what-you-deserve' look," said his friend Andy Sexton.

    Neighbor Lucille Liem, who owns a Prius hybrid, said that a common sentiment in the neighborhood is that large vehicles such as the Hummer are impractical and a strain on the Earth.

    "The neighborhood in general is very concerned with the environment," said Liem, whose Prius gets about 48 miles a gallon compared with the Hummer's 14 miles a gallon. "It's more liberal leaning. It's ridiculous to be driving a Hummer."

    Liem quickly added that she does not condone violence.
     
  11. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Except she's very wrong. I love the environment and environmentalists, but I want to stab stupid people in the face.
     
  12. Thorsen

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    Interesting articles there Budder. I'm definitely going to have to read up on the entire test this guy ran.
     
  13. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Just to jump in again before I get misinterpreted: I'm glad we're doing research into fuel-efficient vehicles. The next generation of personal transportation will be built off of the hybrid research of today. But it's not fair to hate the big cars when yours is worse for the environment. If the auto manufacturers need to sell hybrids now to further their research, that's fine by me, but I won't be buying one and I won't be destroying any hybrids and making even more of a negative environmental impact.
     
  14. Gunstar1

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    Yeah, I saw something about that. The super efficient batteries that are in the hybrids are the biggest cause of the car's high lifetime cost. Refining the metals inside to a certain purity takes huge amounts of power. Then at the end of its life there is the safe disposal of those batteries.
     
  15. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Toyota does have a recycling program in place for the batteries though. I imagine it's one of the few recycling programs that's actually beneficial to the environment. If you have seen it, here's a link to the first third of the Bullshit! episode regarding recycling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oloM_dSoW4
     
  16. NetAdminWithGun

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    If that were me I would jack up every smug looking persons' prius.
     
  17. Boy Racer

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    I guess I was just surprised that it was lawful to defend inanimate property, not just life and limb, with lethal force.

    I'm trying to imagine a scenario where this would come into play: If I roll up to my detached garage and see the door up with people loading a van with my stuff, I can shoot them. I may not need to do it, and it may not be (probably wouldn't be) prudent, but according to this text, I can lawfully use deadly force in defense of property.

    I didn't know that until I joined this site.
     
  18. Malum Prohibitum

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    "as provided in said Code Sections"

    You must give meaning to all of the words, not just some of them.
     
  19. Malum Prohibitum

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    Don't blame this site for that misapprehension of the law. :wink: You need to read 16-3-21 through 16-3-24 together.

    In short, if you shot them in that circumstance with no other facts presented you will probably go to prison.
     
  20. Boy Racer

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    I read them. But previously I understood that the only allowable lethal defense must be to personal safety, i.e. life and/or limb - I didn't realize there were exceptions. No matter how many times I read the code, I seem to have glanced over that.

    So the statute reads that I can't defend from a 'peaceful' burglary with lethal force, but a burglary that also features 'the use or threat of physical force or violence against any person' -and is therefore a forcible felony- does allow it. Gotcha.

    I seem to remember a time when I was under the impression that one could only meet force with equal or lesser force; meaning to escalate a situation (respond with a gun to a knife threat) was a no-no. Funny how what you read affects what you think. :oops: