[publius]

"We feel its best to do what we've done, which is to prohibit weapons from being on, from being brought on campus. Except, of course, for LEO."
-Daniel Walsch, GMU Spokeman

Prohibit weapons from being on campus . . . that makes sense. Things just fall apart when someone DOES bring a gun onto your campus and there are thousands of defenseless students.

I really was expecting a massive change in public policy across the country (at least in the states where gun ownership is respected) in the wake of the inherent flaw in this mentality was tragically put on display. Sadly, the lesson has still not been learned.

Accordingly to Georgia Tech's Code of Conduct: "Unauthorized possession of fireworks, firearms, and/or ammunition" is prohibited. Any chance my GFL makes me an "authorized" person?

 

[ptsmith24]

No. You aren't authorized. I wouldn't even try it. It isn't worth risking a felony. I'm all for pushing for change, though.

 

[budder]

Yes, your GFL makes you authorized. It doesn't supersede state or federal law, though.

 

[publius]

Interesting. Very different opinions.

According to the Georgia Code § 16-11-127, it appears to be illegal to carry "within 1,000 feet of the campus of any public or private technical school, vocational school, college, university, or institution of postsecondary education." They list a bunch of people that are exempt, but I really can't imagine I fall into any of those categories.

The only way around it is to get "authorized in writing by a duly authorized official of the school." Hahahaha. Like someone with authority at a university would grant me the authorization to exercise my constitutional right.

We need a law change . . .

 

[ptsmith24]

You can carry within that limit given you're visiting someone or doing lawful business. Same code section.

 

[publius]

You can carry within that limit given you're visiting someone or doing lawful business. Same code section.

True. But as a student, I'm pretty sure I can't carry. And that's when I feel most vulnerable. Sitting in a room with few exits and knowing the only people with firearms are those who wish to violate the law . . . time to change the law.

 

[ptsmith24]

Yea, you can't carry on campus as a student on campus or dropping another student off. However, you may be within the 1000' zone if you're doing lawful business or visiting someone or if you happen to live there.

 

[jgullock]

What a shame. Too bad this guy wasn't allowed to carry:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... iness_util

Teen's throat slashed in Colorado campus attack
Associated Press
August 28, 2007

BOULDER, Colo. - An incoherent man slashed the throat of a University of Colorado student from Winnetka during the first day of classes Monday, then began stabbing himself, school officials said.

Michael George Knorps, 17, a freshman, underwent surgery to repair damaged tissue in his neck but was doing well, a university spokesman said.

Knorps was conscious after the attack outside the university's student center and had spoken to family members by phone, Hilliard said.

The suspect, identified as Kenton Drew Astin, 39, worked at the university last year as a cashier at the Alferd Packer Grill at the student center, school officials said. He was arrested and hospitalized Monday with serious stab wounds, the school said.

 

[polskash]

Is there any serious debate going on about removing this restriction?

Usually you hear BS arguments like "We want an environment for the free exchange of ideas without worrying about safety" as if heated classroom debates inevitably lead to desire to kill or that student who just failed his test gets mad at the professor and would pull a gun if one was available.

Or you hear the same old worn out "The police are there to protect you" but everyone knows the police can't be everywhere at all times as Virginia Tech so horrifically illustrated.

The one sensible argument against allowing guns on campuses is the widespread alcohol consumption that goes on around fraternities and sororities. In theory you could extrapolate this reasoning and ban guns everywhere where alcohol is consumed, which is practically all private residences in the country. Realistically though, college kids are usually a little less mature than other adults who consume alcohol.

I am of the opinion that even if a greater number of college students die from being irresponsible with ALL their rights as American citizens, it is better than if a lesser number of them die because they were DENIED some of their rights.

We don't know if that will statistically be the case because colleges are themselves liberal bastions which love gun control anyway, so most don't like guns because of their own prevailing ideology. Hence, we have few if any colleges that currently allow students to carry.

 

[ThetaReactor]

You can carry there. The police will [wrongly] arrest you. Justice will not prevail, and you will lose in court.

 

[polskash]

You can't carry on college campuses. It's listed as one of the public places of gathering.

 

[GAGunOwner]

You can't carry on college campuses. It's listed as one of the public places of gathering.

Actually college campuses are covered by a different law and are classified as "school safety zones." Instead of being a misd. the penalty is a felony.

 

[GAGunOwner]

All I can say is that I went to GA State for four years and never once observed a student, faculty member, or staff member who was drinking/drunk while on campus.

 

[budder]

You can't carry on college campuses. It's listed as one of the public places of gathering.

Colorado is not a part of GA.

 

[GAGunOwner]

You can't carry on college campuses. It's listed as one of the public places of gathering.

Colorado is not a part of GA.

:?:

 

[budder]

You can't carry on college campuses. It's listed as one of the public places of gathering.

Colorado is not a part of GA.

:?:

 

[Rammstein]

Maybe I am interpreting this incorrectly...but you're coming off as a douche.

 

[GAGunOwner]

What the does Colorado have to do with anything was my point?

 

[ptsmith24]

Is Colorado campus carry legal?

 

[budder]

GGO, polskash's first post responded jgullock's about the Colorado knifing. Then, ThetaReactor said that college carry was legal. Since he was obviously not referring to GA, I assumed he was referring to CO, which would agree with my thought that CO allows college carry. Then, polskash said that college campuses were off limits, applying a GA law to CO, since I believe we're the only state that has the PG clause, at least in so many words. I made a humorous map to point out that we were talking about CO, in the hopes that I could clear up the confusion, and Ramm called me a douche because it was immensely helpful.