I think the thread that heretofore has included SSN stuff generally, and the Camp case, is something like 40 gazillion pages long. I'm starting a new thread devoted to the Camp case specifically. The Carroll County Probate Judge has filed an answer in this case. More information is available at GCO. Sorry, I won't have a more specific URL until the Great and Powerful (f/k/a Terrible) Wizard pulls a lever.
When they say the wheel of justice grind slowly they ain't kidding. When are we going to get some results
In federal court, you have to file an answer within 20 days of being served with a complaint. Both defendants were served in July 2006. If you file a motion to dismiss, you get an extension of time to file an answer until the court rules on the motion to dismiss. Both defendants filed motions to dismiss. The motions were granted, so the defendants did not have to file answers at all. The plaintiff (GCO member) appealed the dismissal and won at the court of appeals (decision in March 2007). The court of appeals sent the case back to the district court in April. The district court entered an order incorporating the decision of the court of appeals as its own. That means now the motions to dismiss have been denied. So, the defendants just now were required to file their answers, which they have done. Before the dismissed the case originally, the plaintiff had filed a motion for summary judgment. The defendants never responded to the motion because the case was dismissed. The district court now has ordered the defendants to respond to the motion for summary judgment by May 16. The plaintiff will have a couple weeks to reply. So, some time in early June, the case will be submitted to the district judge for a decision on the plaintiff's motion for summary judgment. If the motion is granted, plaintiff will have won the case. If the motion is denied, the case will go forward to trial (barring any other motions being filed and granted that result in disposing of the case before trial).
The response to the motion for summary judgment should be more interesting and substantive (if, in fact, there is any substance to be had). She still urges dismissal as moot, which seems as likely as the winged pigs in light of the COA decision.
This looks more like a shotgun defense. First Defense says that there is no claim where relief can be granted. Second Defense at the end says the plantiff is not entitled to any relief. According to the first defense there was no relief, so how could there both be no relief asked for and at the same time not be entitled to relief that supposedly does not exist? The Seventh was overturned by the appeals court was it not? Seventh says the case is moot because the license was issued, but the appeals court said not if he is going to have to renew in 5 years. The Eighth says plantiff has no standing to assert claims on behalf of other individuals. Um, who cares? The appeals court already said the plantiff had standing and was not moot because of the renewal requirement. What, are they thinking the judge will ignore the appeals court?
State Removes SSN and Employment Info From GFL Application The Dept. of Public Safety has filed an affidavit in this case, saying that SSN and employment information have been removed from the GFL application. The new application form has been distributed to all probate courts with instructions to destroy copies of all the old forms. Both the state and the Carroll County probate judge have filed their briefs in opposition to summary judgment. More information and copies of the briefs can be found at GCO, although the information may not be available until later today (that wizard thing).
I just called the Cherokee County Probate Court. They claim that they have NOT received any new forms or instructions.
It took several months for the last batch to get fully used... that is assuming that they have all changed over from the last one.