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What a STUPID cow.

People like this, who know NOTHING about the bills they put forward, should be banned from public "service".

They try to legislate things which they know nothing about?!

That's like asking your proctologist to perform open heart surgery.

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She knows that guns are bad and she knows that she knows how to run your life better than you do.
Wow...I still have an "innie" belly button, so the umbilical cord HAS been cut for quite a while.

Tell me again, WHY do I need government to run my life?

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Is there a text transcript of this video? Would love to see what was said...
Yes there is.

Color coded for your ease.

CARLSON: Those photographs we just showed of Cho Seung-Hui holding the weapons will surely be used by some in this country for recruiting posters for the effort to impose gun control. One of the most outspoken advocates for that movement here in Washington is Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy. She ran for Congress after her husband was killed and her son injured when avowed racist Colin Ferguson walked on to a New York commuter train in 1993 and started shooting. Congresswoman McCarthy joins us from the Capitol.

Congresswoman, thanks for coming on.

REP. CAROLYN MCCARTHY (D), NEW YORK: Thank you, Tucker. I‘m glad to be here. You know, when I was listening to hear you talk earlier, the similar (INAUDIBLE) between Colin Ferguson and the killer at Virginia Tech were a pretty close parallel as far as what they were doing, in the notes that the homicide police found in Ferguson‘s and how he was planning this all the way along.

CARLSON: Right. But even before we knew anything about the gunman in this case, at Virginia Tech, before we knew his name, before we knew how many people were killed, much less their names, you said the following thing, quote: “The unfortunate situation in Virginia could have been avoided if congressional leaders stood up to the gun lobby.â€

This was the kind of sentiment that the governor of Virginia, a Democrat, attacked. He said, I‘ve got nothing but loathing for people who say things like that. Isn‘t it premature to make sweeping judgments about public policy from an incident we barely understand, that is just a couple of days old?

MCCARTHY: No. Because I get up on the floor in Congress every single week and talk about the gun violence that is happening in this country on a daily basis. But with that being said, you know, when we found out that the killer actually had been adjudicated by a judge that he was mentally incompetent, that would have put him right there on the NICS bill that I had gotten passed a few years ago that unfortunately did not go through the Senate, could have been prevented him from buying a gun. And I think that is what we‘re looking for.

CARLSON: Well, wait a second, as far as I know, it is illegal now, it was illegal three months ago for someone who has been adjudicated mentally ill to buy a weapon. Isn‘t it? I mean, it was illegal when he did it, wasn‘t it?

MCCARTHY: It was, but unfortunately, the information that Virginia had did not go into the national instant background check system. And that‘s what basically my bill would do. It would get a mandate for the states, take the information that they have and put it into a computer system so that the instantâ€"listen, we know that a computer is only as good as the data that it has.

The states need to give that information so that when a gun store is selling a gun, he knows that the information he has selling to someone like that murderer, that he shouldn‘t have been able to buy a gun.

CARLSON: In February, you introduced the Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007. It would regulate semi-automatic assault weapons, including weapons that have pistol grips, a forward grip and something called a barrel shroud. Weapons with a barrel shroud would be regulated. What is a barrel shroud and why should we regulate it?

MCCARTHY: I think the more important thing is that it also would have banned the large capacity clips that Colin Ferguson had used and also the killer. But we are talking about.

CARLSON: OK. But I read the legislation.

(CROSSTALK)

CARLSON: I‘m sorry. I read the legislation and it said that it would regulate barrel shrouds. What is a barrel shroud? And why should we regulate that?

MCCARTHY: The guns that were chosen back in those days were basically the gun that most gangs and criminal were using to kill our police officers. I‘m not saying it was the best bill. But that was the best bill they could get out...

(CROSSTALK)

CARLSON: Do you know what a barrel shroud is?

MCCARTHY: I actually don‘t know what a barrel shroud is.

CARLSON: Oh, OK. Because it is in your legislation.

MCCARTHY: I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up.

CARLSON: No, it‘s not. I justâ€"here‘s my question. Shouldn‘t we spend more time trying to understand why people commit these crimes, how a person with this profound mental illness like Colin Ferguson or Cho Seung-Hui can exist in our society unnoticed. That seems a more pressing question than whether has a barrel shroud to me, don‘t you think?

MCCARTHY: Well, to be very honest with you, I have been working on that for years, also. That is called having mental parity. When we lost two police officers hereâ€"down here in the Capitol, it was done by a deranged person that unfortunately had fallen through the cracks because he went off his medication.

I certainly believe in mental health and it is something that we need to even start looking back, even starting through high school. You know, looking at these young people that might need help and get them help they have. But right now we don‘t have a system that is taking care of that. Hopefully, that will beâ€"get done by Patrick Kennedy and Mr. Ramstad from Minnesota.

CARLSON: I hope something is done. Thanks very much, Congresswoman.

We appreciate it very much.
MCCARTHY: Thank you.
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What a moron.
 

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What a STUPID cow.

People like this, who know NOTHING about the bills they put forward, should be banned from public "service".

They try to legislate things which they know nothing about?!

That's like asking your proctologist to perform open heart surgery.

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The exact same kind of thing from our own state legistature as well. Everyone recalls that first committe meeting that we had video from with MP (and his tie). I don't remember which woman is was but she had no clue what the bill said that she was voting on & certianly had no idea of what the existing gun laws are. I know we all have a "report card" that we get to cast on our reps every so often but in reality how many people ever see just what their reps are doing for them? Very very few. It would be great if there were a mediator in those committee meetings that could basically jump the members if they demonstrate their ignorance in such a manner.

I really can't stand most politicians. :evil:
 

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CARLSON: Do you know what a barrel shroud is?

MCCARTHY: I actually don‘t know what a barrel shroud is.

CARLSON: Oh, OK. Because it is in your legislation.

MCCARTHY: I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up.

CARLSON: No, it‘s not. I justâ€"here‘s my question. Shouldn‘t we spend more time trying to understand why people commit these crimes, how a person with this profound mental illness like Colin Ferguson or Cho Seung-Hui can exist in our society unnoticed. That seems a more pressing question than whether has a barrel shroud to me, don‘t you think?
Haha! What an idiot. Carlson did a great job setting her up to look like the fool that she is.
 

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I don't remember which woman is was but she had no clue what the bill said that she was voting on & certianly had no idea of what the existing gun laws are.
Her name is Representative Roberta Abdul-Salaam. She is the very same person that introduced HR376 to have Coretta Scott King's picture displayed in the capitol then failed to show up on time for 2 or 3 committee meetings where the matter was supposed to be heard. :roll:
 

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Thanks for the text.

I never ceased to be amazed at the amount of stupid in our country. Especially in politics.

I do agree that Cho's mental issues should have raised a flag with NICs, but come on... This woman is beyond clueless...
 

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Function vs. Image

Okay, do think there's something to the argument that a gun that LOOKS like its made for killing people will tend to attract a different type of prospective buyer than a gun that looks like a mere sporting tool, suitable for hunting or target shooting? Even if the difference is ONLY in looks, and marketing, and the gun's "image" and both are, from a practical standpoint, equally lethal?

This Congresswoman says she doesn't know what a barrel shroud is (she attempts to describe it and it sounds like she's describing a folding stock). But she says that gangsters used such weapons to kill police. That may be a lie or just an exaggeration, but if we simply what she meant to just "bad people choose assault weapons for their crimes" there may be some truth to that. (Of course, plenty of law-abiding citizens choose them too, and never hurt anybody with theirs, but she's only looking at bad guys' guns).

My response to her would be, do you think the guy planning a murder who would ordinarily choose the "assault weapon" over the "ordinary sporting gun" would, if such an assault weapon were not available,

(A) Give up his homicidal plans and instead take up yoga and meditation to deal with his frustrations, or

(B) Choose an "ordinary sporting gun" that doesn't have muzzle breaks or barrel shrouds or bayonet lugs and then proceed to kill a bunch of people anyway?

If she says "A" then she's a bona-fide lunatic who is detached from reality.

If she answers "B" then the follow-up question is: Would that "sporting" gun be significantly less deadly in the hands of a crazed killer than the "assault weapon" would have been?

She is obviously incapable of answering that question, since she knows nothing of guns or ballistics or the tactical considerations of using deadly force. But we know the answer is NO, people would not be safer. The gun without the barrel shroud is just as deadly as the one with it.

I think her honest answer, the one she'll never give until the time is right and gun confiscation is right around the corner, is that if you would just allow her to write her own definition of an "assault weapon" without interference from the NRA and other gun nuts, she would make sure that the level of dangerousness of legal sporting guns is much less than that of prohibited assault guns.

In her world, any gun that can penetrate human skin, or any replica or toy gun that looks real enough to fool a victim into not resisting another crime like kidnapping or child molestation, is an illegal "assault weapon."

Air-soft guns that shoot 5-grain plastic BBs at 200 f.p.s. would be permitted, if they were bright orange all over, and if they were only sold to persons over 21 years of age who did not live within 5 miles of a school or school bus route.
 

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Representative Roberta Abdul-Salaam. She is the very same person that introduced HR376 to have Coretta Scott King's picture displayed in the capitol then failed to show up on time for 2 or 3 committee meetings where the matter was supposed to be heard. :roll:
To go further with the second part of that story...

"Coretta Capitol Portrait Fails
(WSB Radio State Capitol Bureau) A measure to encourage the State Arts Commission to hang a portrait of Coretta Scott King in the State Capitol died in committee today after the motion to pass it failed to get a second.

It was the fourth time the three-member Special Rules Committee had met on the matter.

The last time sponsor Representative Roberta Abudl-Salaam (D-Riverdale) tried to present her bill, she was late and the meeting adjourned. The time before that she was sick and didn't attend.

After today's failure to pass, she said the committee's no-action is worse than comments made by radio talk show host Don Imus regarding the Rutgers Women's Basketball Team.

``It's just like calling Mrs. King a nappy-headed (n-word)," she told reporters afterwards.

Another resolution to display portraits of other civil rights leaders also died this session."


Where were the Antichrist twins Sharpton and Jackson screaming for her to step down?
 
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