There had to be an underlying medical condition, or either the person(s) on him were of ridiculous weight. Almost any activity can cause increased pressure on the diaphragm such as having you arms tied behind your back or above your head. I applaud those that held him down. If we had more citizens who helped deter/detain criminals, we would see a great downturn in overall crime statistics. As it is now, most would rather let the perp get away and HOPE the LEOs can catch them.mpc said:This is something that judo players are cautioned about. You have to be careful about compressing someone while they are on their stomach, as your weight can prevent the lungs from expanding and limit or prevent their breathing altogether. I don't know if that's what happened in this case, but I can easily see where the weight of several people can cause this to happen. An unfortunate incident and another reason why a citizens arrest is generally not a good idea.
If you want to look at the root cause, the thing that absolutely led to this man's death, it would be his assertion that he was above the law, the fact that he broke the law, and then paid the ultimate price for breaking the law.Officers were questioning car wash employees, according to Fleischer. Officials were not sure what led to the manâ€™s death.
I am thinking very few are going to see this your way. :wink: Let's see, robbery thwarted, robber dead, car wash employees realize they need to go on a diet. Sounds like a win-win.mpc said:another reason why a citizens arrest is generally not a good idea.
My thoughts aren't so much about the bad guy, but the people who initiated the detainment. They could be facing manslaughter charges, a lawsuit, or other legal entanglements. It may wind up costing them some legal fees.Malum Prohibitum said:
I didn't say they would be or that they should be, just that they could be. I don't think anyone on this board is rooting for the bad guy, but I've known a few people who have used force in self-defense and still had to take a ride downtown, in some cases with a negative outcome. In the first GCO convention, one speaker recounted his experience where charges were brought against him for using his gun in self-defense. He was eventually found innocent, if I recall, but still had to shell out money for a lawyer and sweat-out a conviction.mountainpass said:
Doesn't load for me... after a minute or so it just shows a blank page.SheriffOconee said:For those of you who don't understand what happened, read this