California...More Good Times!

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by GM404, Oct 9, 2019.

  1. GM404

    GM404 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why anyone would live there. With the threat of wildfires and high winds, recently bankrupted PG&E is proactively shutting down power across large swaths of the state. I can only imagine the madness if they keep the lights off for more than 24 hours...,

    https://apnews.com/438e08fd0e174e228e40a626ef9dceaf
     
  2. mrhutch

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    I just mentioned this to a coworker who used to live there. He has a friend out there who said this shutoff is absurd, because everyone is using gas generators while their power is out. So instead of a few power lines that they should have fixed, the risk is now hundreds of thousands of gas generators running 24/7 until power is restored.
     

  3. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Sure seems to me the no power idea is awfully counterproductive. Ideas I can hear in the neighborhood out there.

    Honey, lets just grill in the standing fireplace in the back yard. We have some wood left over from a year or 2 ago in the shed.

    Or we can just go charcoal in the new grill.

    Or use that wood smoker your brother gave us last Christmas.

    Or lets let our 13 year old son show us his safe, controlled, campfire building skills he learned in boy scout camp. Hot dogs and toasted marshmallows would be great fun.

    Nemo
     
  4. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Will gun stores be open during the power outage? If I was there and didn't have any, I'd be driving to the next town I could buy some.

    The silver lining in this is that folks will start waking up to the need to provide for their own safety.
     
  5. OWM

    OWM Well-Known Member

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    What could possibly go wrong in that scenario.:shakehead:
     
  6. OWM

    OWM Well-Known Member

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    You reckon they that smart out there?
     
  7. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Oh, oh, oh, Mr. Kotter, could it be... fires?

     
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    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Have they all gone Rio Linda? Who knows?

     
  9. OWM

    OWM Well-Known Member

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    Had to look that one up. So true.
     
  10. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Think medical needs out there.

    Nemo


    https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article235940257.html


     
  11. Savannah Dan

    Savannah Dan Cross-drawer

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    Posted on another forum by someone in Cali.

     
  12. moe mensale

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    PG&E is a listed public company. You would think that after the gigantic fire debacle that pushed them into bankruptcy, their directors and management would take the necessary steps to mitigate any future repeat events. Did they? No! Instead of performing the necessary repairs and maintenance they opt to impose rolling blackouts on their customers. Who, of course, can't change power companies because PG&E is also a monopoly. Their entire Board of Directors and senior management should be fired and replaced.

    On a really serious note - I wonder how the Tesla owners are holding up? :lol:
     
  13. phantoms

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    When I heard this my first thought was it was motivated by wanting keep from being held liable in the future, whether from legislation or from help for the State (shared maintnence, etc.)
     
  14. GM404

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    I don't recall the specifics, but some court filings showed the amount of $ and people required (more than 500,000 if I recall) that would be needed to address *just* cleaning up the easements...that doesn't even speak to much of the infrastructure than is nearly 100 years old. No simple fix and replacing the board members won't do much good. PG&E have been warning customers for quite a while now that the outages were a very real possibilities. I think this is yet another great example of a complacent society who don't feel the need to prepare for a disaster...even a man made one.
     
  15. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Mostly Northern CA affected. Why couldn't it have been the other way around?
     
  16. Savannah Dan

    Savannah Dan Cross-drawer

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    More from the other web site, same guy.
     
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  18. moe mensale

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    It's not a simple fix when you've neglected common R&M for years. It would be impossible to do that for your entire infrastructure every year. That's why companies do R&M on a rolling basis. Different sections get worked on each year. Of course, there's always the unexpected. Other energy companies do it.
     
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    My mom lives in Northern CA and is on oxygen 7x24, and doesn't have much of a support system in place. All her friends are her age and suffering from their own medical conditions. Fortunately her area hasn't been affected by the shutdowns - at least not yet. If her power gets cut, her only option is to call 911 and go to the hospital.


     
  20. Schweisshund

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    Can they cut off power to all of California during the Presidential election?