California again showing their bias against the military

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by Thorsen, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. Thorsen

    Thorsen New Member

    Marine Mistreatment at Oakland Airport Unacceptable
    Wednesday, October 03, 2007

    By Heather Nauert

    On Monday John Gibson highlighted reports that U.S. Marines returning from deployment in Iraq were relegated to cargo status at Oakland airport. Two hundred returning Marines landed in California for a three-hour layover before getting on their final flight to Hawaii where they were stationed. Instead of being welcomed into the airport terminal, the troops were kept in a separate area where the airlines stow extra baggage.

    According to "Big Story" correspondent Douglas Kennedy, these brave Americans were not allowed inside the terminal to use the bathroom, buy food or magazines. Airport authorities chalk it up to a big miscommunication over security screening and bureaucratic rules. Perhaps.

    This might be believable if the Bay Area had not historically stood in the military’s way. Last week we reported that San Francisco would not reasonably accommodate Marines who wanted to shoot a television commercial on the streets of San Francisco.

    Gibson, a native of the area, remembers how some residents of the Bay Area treated troops during the 1970s. He said, “This smacks of the bad old days in the Bay Area when returning Vietnam vets were spat upon.†He added, “Some high-ranking military person should make sure it never happens again. Our Iraq vets should be welcome anywhere and everywhere.â€

    The incident at the Oakland airport reminded me of a scene I witnessed while at the Dallas airport earlier this year. As I walked down the terminal, I noticed that a big crowd of travelers and airport workers had gathered. Businessmen broke from their phone conversations, parents and children paid attention, TSA screeners stopped what they were doing, and flight attendants paused. A gate attendant just announced that a large group of U.S. soldiers — fresh from Iraq — was just about to walk off the plane.

    More than 100 travelers and employees waited in silence. The gateway door opened and one by one young men and women, each with a tanned face and wearing their uniform, stepped onto U.S. soil. The crowd applauded, cheered loudly and yelled, “Welcome home!†I stood among a group of strangers. Each of us said “Thank you†to the men and women who walked off that plane. Some bystanders cried, and many of the soldiers seemed touched — some fought back tears, others remained stoic.

    I was proud to be an American and equally proud by the way that our men and women who serve our country were treated — with the gratitude and respect they deserve. If only those in the Bay Area felt the same way.
  2. Thorsen

    Thorsen New Member

    Evidently this isnt the first time this has happened at Oakland:

    Spitting on the Marines [Michael Ledeen]

    Here is an e-mail from a Marine chaplain recently returned from Iraq. The story speaks for itself—lousy treatment of our troops at our own airports. He writes about Oakland, and while checking around I find that this is a common experience. I hope that one of our leaders will find a way to put an end to such behavior.

    Marines and Soldiers Returning from Iraq not allowed

    into Oakland terminal

    On September 27th 204 Marines and soldiers who were

    returning from Iraq were not allowed into the

    passenger terminal at Oakland International Airport.

    Instead they had to deplane about 400 yards away from

    the terminal where the extra baggage trailers were


    This was the last scheduled stop for fuel and food

    prior to flying to Hawaii where both were based. The

    trip started in Kuwait on September 26th with a

    rigorous search of checked and carry on baggage by US

    Customs. All baggage was x-rayed with a "backscatter"

    machine AND each bag was completely emptied and hand

    searched. After being searched, checked bags were

    marked and immediately placed in a secure container.

    Carry on bags were then x rayed again to ensure no

    contraband items were taken on the plane. While

    waiting for the bus to the airport, all personnel were

    in quarantined in a fenced area and were not allowed

    to leave.

    The first stop for fuel/food and crew change was in

    Leipzig Germany. Troops exited the aircraft and took

    a bus to a reception area in the terminal, where there

    was a convenience store, phones, Internet and

    restrooms. As we excited the bus we were given a

    re-boarding pass. Three troops remained on the plane

    with the rifles and pistols. There was no ammunition

    on the plane and the bolts of the rifles had been

    removed. After about 2 hours troops re-boarded the

    plane and flew to JFK in NY.

    At JFK the procedure was similar to Germany, 3 troops

    stayed on the plane to guard weapons while the rest

    deplaned. At the gate we were each given a

    re-boarding pass and spent about 1.5 hours in the

    terminal, at which time we re-boarded and flew to


    As we came in for the final approach to Oakland a

    Lieutenant who served in Afghanistan with the same

    unit in 2006 mentioned how when they landed in Oakland

    they were not allowed in the terminal. He said, "they

    made us get out by the FED EX building and we had to

    sit out there for 3 hours". He also indicated he was

    almost arrested by the TSA for getting belligerent

    about them not letting the Marines into the terminal.

    Well the same thing happened again. This time we did

    not park by the FED EX building, instead we were

    offloaded near the grass that separates the active

    runway from the taxi ramp, about 400 yards from the

    terminal. When we inquired why they wouldn't allow us

    in the airport they gave us some lame excuse that we

    hadn't been screened by TSA. While true, the

    screening which we did have was much more thorough

    than any TSA search and was done by US Customs.

    Additionally, JFK didn't seem to have a problem with

    our entering their terminal, nor did security in


    It felt like being spit on. Every Marine and soldier

    felt the message loud and clear, "YOU ARE NOT WELCOME


  3. USMC - Retired

    USMC - Retired Active Member

    OK, I done decided. Next war we're involved in the loser gets kalifonia!
  4. Thorsen

    Thorsen New Member

    This makes me mad as hell!
  5. SigP229

    SigP229 Active Member

    It should. Me too!!!!
  6. Firearmz

    Firearmz New Member

    What makes it even worse the people of California let it happen, continuously!!!!!!! How do good Americans continue to live in a state that treats it's Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines and Civilians in such a manner.

    They continuously vote for these scum bags and keep them in office.
  7. Taler

    Taler New Member

    "Good" Americans? They get the hell out of California.
  8. jeepsterwannabe

    jeepsterwannabe New Member

    cross your fingers, maybe that mythical earthquake will come and dump the whole state in the ocean
  9. Sharky

    Sharky Active Member

    All I had to read was the headline and the state it happened in. Its amazing just how F^&&*(^*&(^)ed up that state is.
  10. merlock

    merlock Active Member

    Care to guess who will scream for the .mil the loudest when the SHTF?

    Frack them.

    This was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Even though I was born and raised in the bay area...I will NEVER step foot in that state again, for any reason. And, I so notified all of my family that lives there of this decision last night.