C.A.R. System Paul Castle

Discussion in 'Training' started by Sharky, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. Sharky

    Sharky Active Member

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    So I was told about this kind of training by a friend. Wondering if anybody has heard of it and their thoughts. Has anybody taken the classes or have known anybody that has taken teh class? First link is the main site.

    http://www.sabretactical.com/

    This link is some of the training in action.

    http://www.sabretactical.com/CAR/car.html

    Pretty cool videos.
     
  2. The Tackman

    The Tackman New Member

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    That guy could really fire the 45. I would like to look into the training sometime.
     

  3. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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  4. ChipM

    ChipM Active Member

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    I can understand that close hold being more stable and natural. Beyond that, there isn't much info available about his "system," and it looks like they don't teach it to the public.
     
  5. Firearmz

    Firearmz New Member

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    I have attended classes that some students of CAR have attended, and well.............

    In my opinion just from that clip (sating that I do not know the context of the demonstration) all he did was empty his gun fast, didn't show him hitting anything and at what distance.

    Guys there is no super secret Ninja way to shoot, master the fundamentals and use great tactics grass hopper.
     
  6. phaed

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    and i can understand that close hold causing your weapon to fail and be inaccurate due to the slide hitting your chest, just as it did in the video (the slow-mo one). lol.

    also, look at the reload. you have to rotate the magwell through an extra 90 degrees with this.

    also, it may not be an issue in closer range pistol engagements, but with long guns over longer range having a half-assed gangsta grip causes inaccuracy due to parabolic trajectory (dealing with 2 axis instead of just 1 [vertical])
     
  7. madcapmagician

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    The CAR system works for phone booth shooting distances. From talking to a few that have taken classes on that system, there is a different stance, grip, etc for different distances. Seems overly complicated and I really wasn't impressed with the level of shooting.

    It gets attention because people see shooting fast and want the magic trick to be able to do it well. As Ken said, mastering the fundamentals through continued practice is the best way to get better.
     
  8. legacy38

    legacy38 Well-Known Member

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    Some of the reviews that I have read say that it is good for situations such as being seated in a car or other enclosed space.

    Agreed.
     
  9. moga

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    Also the shot gun. I'm amazed that he could do it one handed while controlling the rifle so well. Vang port or low velocity rounds or what?? I'm most intrigued.
     
  10. Bulldawg182

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    Sharky,

    One of the guys behind the counter up at Bullseye has taken several classes with this guy. He was impressed with what he learned, but I have my doubts that it's at all necessary or even prudent. All looks a little "off the cuff" to me.
     
  11. Sharky

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    Yeah Jason has his tarining and is a "certified" trainer. I am with you on this one.
     
  12. Fallschirmjäger

    Fallschirmjäger I watch the watchers

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    I want to see someone doing that Left Handed before I comment.
     
  13. mathar1

    mathar1 New Member

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    I know a couple of "operators" that were given the class and called a BS on it. BTW my Delta buds prefer to be called soldiers or warriors not operators.(operators run heavy equipment) They weren't impressed because (according to them) it relies on super fast shots at extremely close ranges. Wastes ammo (which is heavy) makes ALOT of noise needlessly and is useful only if you are caught up close unaware.(yeah that happens alot) Not to mention chest height,close grip in confined spaces with multiple team members is not a smart idea if you are anyone other than the entry guy.

    Never having taken the class I can only go by their opinions. But they are some of the best trained and experienced warrioirs I ever worked with.