Bump Stock Ban Lawsuits?

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by adavid02, Feb 20, 2019.

Will the ban be stopped?

  1. Yes

    4 vote(s)
    30.8%

  2. No

    9 vote(s)
    69.2%
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  1. Feb 20, 2019 #1
    adavid02

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  3. Feb 20, 2019 #2
    Wegahe

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    Any lawyer will tell you when you walk into the courtroom the best odds you can get are 50/50.
     
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  5. Feb 20, 2019 #3
    adavid02

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    50:50 that it will be stopped? I would think that with the multiple lawsuits and the nature of the suits that it will at least be postponed until a final ruling can be made?

     
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  6. Feb 20, 2019 #4
    Malum Prohibitum

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    I don't think I have ever told a client that.
     
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  7. Feb 20, 2019 #5
    gunsmoker

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    well, in the law nothing is certain but the expense.
     
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  8. Feb 20, 2019 #6
    Nemo

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    I always told them the chances were 50/50. We would win or lose.

    But with facts, circumstances and case law we had a poor, fair, good, or excellent chance of getting what we wanted.

    Nemo
     
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  9. Feb 20, 2019 #7
    tmoore912

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  10. Feb 21, 2019 #8
    Wegahe

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    Your clients must have never asked you what their odds of winning were.
     
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  11. Feb 21, 2019 #9
    jrm

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    I can't claim never to have said that, but it's not the norm.
     
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  12. Feb 21, 2019 #10
    moe mensale

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    I voted "No" only based on the compensation argument made in the OP article. I don't want to see the ban overturned due to lack of compensation. That could potentially be rectified and then the ban still stands. I want to see the ban permanently overturned because the ATF is basing their ban off of purely political motivations and also claiming that "A" magically becomes "B" based on violating known physical laws.
     
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  13. Feb 21, 2019 #11
    jrm

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    I think you're in luck. The remedy for lack of compensation is compensation, not undoing the taking.
     
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  14. Feb 22, 2019 #12
    Malum Prohibitum

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    That's a silly assumption to make, and a non sequitur.
     
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  15. Feb 26, 2019 #13
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  16. Feb 26, 2019 #14
    moe mensale

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    Prompting the immediate filing of an appeal to the DC Court of Appeals.

    https://www.ammoland.com/2019/02/ap...administrations-bump-stock-ban/#axzz5gfdSgxNa
     
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  17. Feb 26, 2019 #15
    Craftsman

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    Gee, it's almost is if they expected the lower court to ignore the law.
     
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  18. Feb 26, 2019 #16
    Rugerer

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  19. Feb 27, 2019 #17
    Savannah Dan

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    WTH?!?
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    That article made my head hurt!
     
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  20. Feb 27, 2019 #18
    moe mensale

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    I'm sure that was just coincidence. :lol:
     
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  21. Oct 28, 2019 #19
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