Bugout box?

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by gsusnake, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    Anybody else have a box stocked for leaving quickly?

    I'm going to put together a large waterproof Rubbermaid tote for when the SHTF. Here's what I've got lined up to go in it so far:

    6 gallons of water
    water purifying tablets
    canned food for 5 days
    an extensive first aid kit (tape, bandages, gauze, alcohol, CPR mask, gloves, homemade suture kit, painkillers, waterproof matches, a scalpel, and a few other trinkets)
    two knives
    two flashlights
    batteries
    a prepaid cell phone
    ammo
    two changes of clothes
    lighters
    a bottle of Everclear grain alcohol
    firestarters
    a flare gun
    walkie talkies
    Sterno
    handwarmers (the little packets you open to the air that get hot)
    KCl instant ice packs
    flint
    emergency radio (probably one of those crank-up to power types)
    $500 cash
    small axe/hatchet
    saw
    duct tape

    anything else?
     
  2. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    Fighting, Fighting boredom

    Um, what about guns and ammo? Or do you figure to bug-out with just your personal CCW pistol? I would have one small deep-concealment gun, one big combat pistol, and one 200-yard rifle all ready to go, if not in the box already. Maybe you could leave a note on the lid of the box to remind you-- VISIT GUN SAFE.

    I'd like to have some pens, paper, big magic markers, and a notepad. This would come in handy when leaving notes for people, writing down instructions, etc.

    If you anticipate being hunkered-down in a group shelter, or just on your own somewhere, with no active threat to your safety but nothing to do until you get more information or further instructions, you may get bored.
    I would like to have some books to read, puzzles to do, games to play, etc. Boredom can be downright painful, and it can sometimes lead you to take unwise actions when the safest thing to do is sit and wait.

    Oh, that reminds me. Drugs. I mean, medication. Not for injuries necessarily.
     

  3. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    Re: Fighting, Fighting boredom

    Good call on the pens, paper, markers, etc. Also on the puzzles. I've got a ton of logic puzzle books lying around (damn night shift) so I'll throw one or two of those in there.

    I put ammo on the list. The box is sitting right next to the guns, and as it stands, the three of choice are the Mosin 91/30, the AK, and the Sig.

    Any other suggestions? I'm trying to be as prepared as possible.

    As far as drugs go, I'm trying to figure out how to get a scrip for 60 Cipro to keep in there, but I don't see that happening. I'm sure I can get some saline, hypos, and tubing. I may or may not have :wink: some old painkiller scrips that are going in there.
     
  4. budder

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  5. foshizzle

    foshizzle New Member

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    With my AK and enough ammo I figure I can pretty much just take what I need from the sheep.
     
  6. ptsmith24

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  7. RepeatDefender

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    I am trying to get a BOB together, based on the Camelbak BFM. Any ideas would be helpful.
     
  8. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    In a post-disaster (hurricane) SHTF situation, I don't want to kill any sheep I don't have to.

    Now, in a post-apocalyptic (zombie) situation, I wouldn't necessarily carry all the stuff in the box in order to have more room for ammo... in such a situation, however, I'd have a completely different plan.

    The "box" I'm working on now is for a plausible bug-out SHTF situation (a Katrina scenario, for example) and not a true SHTF walking dead oh my god we're all gonna die situation.
     
  9. foshizzle

    foshizzle New Member

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    Unless you have a log-cabin close by that has it's own well and is easily defensible, I don't see why you would even bother to bug out. Using your example of a Katrina situation, bugging OUT would be the last thing I would do. I guess if you waited too long and your entire house was submerged, then yeah, a bug out BAG would probably be a good idea. I don't see you carrying around a box unless you're in a car. If you're in a car I imagine you've already took the advice and left early enough. In that case you just need some cash, a few cans of gas and firearms/ammo. Leave the pennicillin at home.

    I can survive a helluva lot longer in a disaster type situation right here where I am. I have enough guns/ammo to start and finish a war, enough food and water to last two weeks easy and I know the area and I know some of the neighbors, both of which are hugely important. The last thing I'm going to do is leave, lugging my big box of signal flares, cipro, mirrors, sterno and ammo when all that crap is right at home, with a bunch of other stuff and I can easily defend myself shooting through windows or whatever instead of being caught with my pants down lugging a box down I85. :D

    More realistically you should probably keep a bag of stuff in your car if you get caught in SHTF. Enough food to last a day or two, change of socks, some water, tennis shoes and a gun/ammo. Enough to get home. And be in shape to get there quickly.
     
  10. gsusnake

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    It would be carried to the car.

    The point was that if I can't get to somewhere I'd be able to acquire what I need, I've got some sort of supplies.

    It would also work at the beginning of a post-apocalyptic situation, giving me enough to survive on while I work out a more permanent arrangement.

    I've decided that the Mosin is going in the car (can't hurt to have a long gun), the AK will be slung across me, and the Sig will be on my hip.
     
  11. Claire

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    i have a barn on my property where I store camping supplies - there's about 3 rubbermaid tubs - that I can quickly grab & go if need to evacuate

    however, I need to organize them better & narrow it down to 2 tubs?

    also, one thing I've been working on is a plain ole text file with personal info & storing it on a jump drive - it clips to my key chain.. important phone numbers, doctors, friends, family -- account numbers, medical info etc.. in the event of an evacuation - i get to a hotel or anyplace with a public computer I can easily access and or print

    however i'm with foshizzle i can survive in da woods on my property if my house was not livable

    GSU - my list of supplies looks like yours..

    in my camping supplies I have a couple of foil type blankets folded up in a plastic baggie the size of a deck of cards

    toilet paper
    rope
    rain gear
    tarp
    portable CB radio
    magnifying glass and or small mirror
    a deck of cards
     
  12. Claire

    Claire New Member

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    i wanted to add to the list

    ax
    duct tape (duct tape is my friend)
    portable saw - wire type is small
     
  13. VolGrad

    VolGrad Tactical Statistician

    When this thread started, I swear I thought it was a joke. Don't take that statement wrong. There is nothing wrong with being prepared. This was just the first survivalist type thread I have seen since joining the forum. it caught me a little of guard.

    My wife already thinks I am too paranoid for carrying CC all the time and for having guns everywhere. I guess she thinks you only need a gun when you plan on being in a "bad" place. Each time a story gets posted like the highway rest stop one, it helps my cause.

    That being said, if I started packing a box with supplies I think she would really think I was crazy. :screwy: LOL. I have a mental list of supplies in case something did require a quick exit. I had a list once for camping supplies so it would be mostly the same. Your list looks pretty good so far.
     
  14. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Well, the BOB can also be used as a Bug in Bag, like if there's a long power outage or a storm has blocked the road (tree/power lines).
     
  15. VolGrad

    VolGrad Tactical Statistician

    I agree the BOB / BIB is a good idea. However, when/if I start packing one I think I will do it when she isn't around to laugh/poke fun. When/if the need arises the box will be a great surprise to her.
     
  16. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    I don't think that's a good idea. While you might get made fun of now, if she's ever stranded at home by herself, she'll know about hte bag and be able to use it.
     
  17. Cavediver

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    I would leave the bag alone in that case. You may need it in case the situation does not get resolved in a few days and you are forced to leave your home (ie: conditions get so bad that you need to relocate or perhaps mandatory evacuation). One should have enough non-perishable food to go for a week at minimum before running low. More / longer if you're in an area prone to these events (hurricane coast, tornado alley, earthquake central, ad nauseum)

    Volgrad, this doesn't have to make your wife think you're paranoid. Right now is the time to hit her with this concept. The CAT5 that hit Mexico is the perfect current reason. While you may not be worried about a hurricane, there are enough tornados and and severe weather to knock out power, gas and water for a few days.
     
  18. Thorsen

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    I grew up in NW Florida and got the enjoyment of experiencing hurricanes. The earliest one I remember was Frederick, and even though it hit Mobile, the damage done to Pensacola was significant. My dad had items stored for emergency use and I guess I have just had that habit instilled in me. In addition to some of the above items, my wife and I keep hurricane lamps and lamp oil, additional batteries, additional coolers along with what we jokingly refer to as "hurricane food" (canned meats and other long lasting items).

    I don't think being prepared for a natural disaster makes me exactly paranoid, but rather prepared. Its a bonus that the same items that would work for a natural disaster are also many of the items you might want to have in case of a meltdown in society, such as what happened post-Katrina in New Orleans.
     
  19. Bulldawg182

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    While I'm, once again, aligned with VolGrad on this one, I understand and respect the thoughts of being prepared for whatever comes your way. I'm married to a woman who laughs when a hurricane or ice storm is coming and everyone else is going to the supermarket to prepare. She's guilty of being optimistic to the point of clear headedness and that drives me crazy.

    That being said, for those of you who really want to learn lots about survival gear, check out this site: Equipped to Survive. It's geared towards pilots and ditching and other crashes, the author/owner is extremely knowledgeable and offers some pretty good advice.

    As for the list above, where are the First Aid kits? You can buy or put together a foolproof emergency medical kit which is small, economical and capable of handling even minor surgeries. Damned....I don't go anywhere without Ibuprophen!!!
     
  20. Bulldawg182

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    By the way, don't pay top dollar to buy someone else's BOB or Survival Bags. Most of the necessary items are listed by people like Doug Ritter on Equipped to Survive and you can duplicate their efforts at just about any Army/Navy store you come across. Brigade Quartermaster in Kennesaw is a spectacular starting place for just about everything you'd need at a fraction of the cost.

    Brigade Quartermaster