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Well, I wonder if Helmke has been cleared to state policy for the schools.These institutions are responsible for the safety of their campuses...
+1glockgirl said:so basically they are saying college kids are stupid and can't be trusted...
the college kids I have met that carry are more responsible than their non carrying peers (and yes I think Ramm is a good example of this)
I am not much older than college kids and I greatly take offense to many of the statements they make.
as far as suicides are concerned... if someone wants to do it they will do it no matter what. The fact that a gun is there is immaterial. If there is no gun available they will just OD, hang themselves, or bleed out from a knife cut.
I would like to see the stats they have on guns influencing binge drinking. I think carrying decreases alcohol consumption since most folks I know won't drink when they carry.
Guess I can sum it up by saying ARGH!
Careful there, you may collapse the whole economy of Athens :drink:glockgirl said:I think carrying decreases alcohol consumption since most folks I know won't drink when they carry.
No, they say you smoke crack!glockgirl said:so basically they are saying college kids are stupid and can't be trusted...
Where do they get those numbers??? :roll:Malum Prohibitum said:" . . . college gun owners are more likely than other students to binge drink, need a drink first thing in the morning, use cocaine or crack, be arrested for a DUI, vandalize property, and get in trouble with the police."
My head started to hurt just reading the overview on the brady site... :evil:Malum Prohibitum said:The original of the "report" (not just the news release) is available here.
I wonder if they normed for sex?All the things they mention happen at near double (or more) the rate in men than women. Who owns guns a 3X the rate of women? Men. So compared to the whole population of students there may appear to be a correlation. Maybe. But I doubt it.
I almost feel out of my chair laughing when I read that line..... :rotfl:glockgirl said:the college kids I have met that carry are more responsible than their non carrying peers (and yes I think Ramm is a good example of this)
Nice. Close, but not quite. :righton:Sine Nomen said:The Report
I swear that cover picture MUST be Ramm's place...
That can' tbe Ramm's place..... No vodka !!!!!ptsmith24 said:Nice. Close, but not quite. :righton:Sine Nomen said:The Report
I swear that cover picture MUST be Ramm's place...
Now that is just hard to believe in this day and time. :roll:Malum Prohibitum said:You will note that FN 63 tarnishes gun owners as a whole (not just college students) over the general population.