[Malum Prohibitum]

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stori ... 460&EDATE=

 

[jgullock]

These institutions are responsible for the safety of their campuses...

Well, I wonder if Helmke has been cleared to state policy for the schools.

 

[glockgirl]

so basically they are saying college kids are stupid and can't be trusted...

the college kids I have met that carry are more responsible than their non carrying peers (and yes I think Ramm is a good example of this)

I am not much older than college kids and I greatly take offense to many of the statements they make.

as far as suicides are concerned... if someone wants to do it they will do it no matter what. The fact that a gun is there is immaterial. If there is no gun available they will just OD, hang themselves, or bleed out from a knife cut.

I would like to see the stats they have on guns influencing binge drinking. I think carrying decreases alcohol consumption since most folks I know won't drink when they carry.

Guess I can sum it up by saying ARGH!

 

[ptsmith24]

so basically they are saying college kids are stupid and can't be trusted...

the college kids I have met that carry are more responsible than their non carrying peers (and yes I think Ramm is a good example of this)

I am not much older than college kids and I greatly take offense to many of the statements they make.

as far as suicides are concerned... if someone wants to do it they will do it no matter what. The fact that a gun is there is immaterial. If there is no gun available they will just OD, hang themselves, or bleed out from a knife cut.

I would like to see the stats they have on guns influencing binge drinking. I think carrying decreases alcohol consumption since most folks I know won't drink when they carry.

Guess I can sum it up by saying ARGH!

+1

 

[Sine Nomen]

I think carrying decreases alcohol consumption since most folks I know won't drink when they carry.

Careful there, you may collapse the whole economy of Athens :drink:

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

so basically they are saying college kids are stupid and can't be trusted...

No, they say you smoke crack!

:x

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

" . . . college gun owners are more likely than other students to binge drink, need a drink first thing in the morning, use cocaine or crack, be arrested for a DUI, vandalize property, and get in trouble with the police."

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

:banghead:

 

[ptsmith24]

" . . . college gun owners are more likely than other students to binge drink, need a drink first thing in the morning, use cocaine or crack, be arrested for a DUI, vandalize property, and get in trouble with the police."

Where do they get those numbers??? :roll:

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

The original of the "report" (not just the news release) is available here.

 

[ptsmith24]

The original of the "report" (not just the news release) is available here.

My head started to hurt just reading the overview on the brady site... :evil:

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Footnotes 58 and 63 appear to contain the sources supporting these claims, if any bright college students are motivated to check up on the Brady Center's research skills.

You will note that FN 63 tarnishes gun owners as a whole (not just college students) over the general population.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Interesting comment over at the High Road.

All the things they mention happen at near double (or more) the rate in men than women. Who owns guns a 3X the rate of women? Men. So compared to the whole population of students there may appear to be a correlation. Maybe. But I doubt it.

I wonder if they normed for sex?

 

[Sine Nomen]

The Report PDF

The Report
I swear that cover picture MUST be Ramm's place...

 

[Adam5]

the college kids I have met that carry are more responsible than their non carrying peers (and yes I think Ramm is a good example of this)

I almost feel out of my chair laughing when I read that line..... :rotfl:

 

[ptsmith24]

Re: The Report PDF

The Report
I swear that cover picture MUST be Ramm's place...

Nice. Close, but not quite. :righton:

 

[Adam5]

Re: The Report PDF

The Report
I swear that cover picture MUST be Ramm's place...

Nice. Close, but not quite. :righton:

That can' tbe Ramm's place..... No vodka !!!!!

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Original sources?

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/cas/Documen ... unspdf.pdf

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/heldref/acc ... at+college

 

[GeorgiaGlocker]

You will note that FN 63 tarnishes gun owners as a whole (not just college students) over the general population.

Now that is just hard to believe in this day and time. :roll:

 

[foshizzle]

They left out the crack-pipes and lines of coke.