I've been looking at a Surefire flashlight for a while but could not justify the cost. My brother bought a Fenix LD20. After using it I decided to buy a Fenix PD20 instead of a Surefire. For the money they are really nice flashlights and very bright. I am not sure if anyone else here has had any experience with this company: http://www.fenixlight.com/newping.asp . I figured it was worth mentioning.