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Bloomberg Under Fire From Gun Groups

by John M. Snyder
Posted Jan 22, 2007

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19063

"More than two dozen national and regional groups of American citizens over the weekend called for a federal investigation of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

In a letter to Michael J. Sullivan, acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the 26 organizations, through the auspices of the Liberty Coalition in Washington, D.C., called upon BATFE “to immediately investigate and prosecute New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his associates for conspiring to violate the federal Gun Control Act of 1968 as amended by the Brady Act of 1995.â€

For some time now, the Manhattan gun grabber has been stumping the country campaigning for laws and regulations to undermine if not downright eliminate the individual 2nd Amendment civil right of tens of millions of law-abiding American citizens to keep and bear arms.

It’s about time he got his comeuppance. In reality, Bloomberg is working against the right to self-defense of law-abiding American citizens, of the very right to life itself. Perhaps this citizen letter to the U.S. Justice Department’s BATFE is a good first step in giving Bloomberg a dose of his own medicine.

“It is well known,†reads the letter, “that Mayor Bloomberg has organized a multi-state vigilante-style campaign against federal gun dealers. Bloomberg’s gambit is simpleâ€"without any federal or state law enforcement authorization, he sends people to federal firearms dealers to break federal law by providing false information on the federal ATF Form 4473 firearm transfer form, and then purchasing guns for persons prohibited by law from taking possession of guns (a so called ‘straw sale’). Bloomberg then files a civil lawsuit against the dealer in a New York court while using a covertly made video tape of the transaction to blackmail the dealer into ‘settling’ on terms where the City of New York’s ‘Special Master’ will supplant ATF supervision of the dealer and peruse Americans’ confidential federal gun transfer records at will.â€

According to the letter, “Congress’ charter to the ATF to regulate federal gun dealers and interstate gun sales did not come with a command for the agency to step aside when a wealthy New York City mayor wants to break federal criminal statutes and impose New York City style gun control across the nation as a publicity stunt. Moreover, America’s Second Amendment rights are at risk because the ATF has not done its job to intervene in Bloomberg’s travesty of justice.â€

The citizen groups tell Sullivan that “the ball is in your court. The ATF needs to take action to show that no one is above the law, not even the Mayor of New York.â€

National groups signing the letter are American Policy Center, Center for Financial Privacy and Human Rights, Citizen Outreach Project, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Doctors for Open Government, Firearm Owners Against Crime, Gun Owners of America, KeepAndBearArms.com, Liberty Coalition.net, OpenCarry.org, Second Amendment Foundation, and Second Amendment Sisters.

Regional groups include Allegheny County Sportsmen’s League, Clarion Gun Owners, Lehigh Valley Firearms Coalition, and Pennsylvania Rifle and Pistol Association, all from the Keystone State, FairfaxCountyPrivacyCouncil.org, and Virginia Citizens Defense League, both of the Old Dominion, Grass Roots North Carolina, GeorgiaCarry.org, I Carry Gun Owners Association of Illinois, Kentucky Coalition to Carry Concealed, Ohioans for Concealed Carry (OhioCCW.org), SecondAmendmentClub.org of Land O Lakes FL, Texas Citizens Defense League, and West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

Mr. Snyder, an expert on American gun laws, is founder of the St. Gabriel Possenti Society and author of "Gun Saint."

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Georgia Carry.org...who are they and why haven't we heard about them before? :)

The letter sounds like a plan. How long until BATFE responds ya think? 1 month, 2 months, never?
 

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Nice. Now lets see if the BATF will actually do anything about it.
 

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Thanks MP!! :D

I have a feeling they have been investigating this for a awhile now trying to build a case, but it's good to see the variety groups taking action to try to persuade them to move a little quicker though!!

There should be an interesting outcome....
 

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Thanks MP!! :D
No thanks to me, gentlemen, thanks to GCO. If you are a member, then thanks to you.

If you are reading this but are not a member, why not? :? I cannot understand why anyone who is interested enough in these issues to take the time to read a site like this would not Join Us!

There is a lot going on right now on the state and local level, and much of it affects you directly.

Come on board! :D Simply clicking on the link above makes it easy!

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I don't suppose this is going to be broadcast in radio or TV.
 

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Bloomberg Flees

Looks like VCDL scared Bloomberg away. Bloomberg at the last moment moved his press conference and reception from the Hilton to a Congressional building across town!
 

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But he had this to say from across town.

Members of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns insisted that they respected the Second Amendment right to bear arms. Mr. Bloomberg said he was not trying to curb existing gun rights. “That’s ideological nonsense and we’ve just got to move past it,†he said.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/23/nyreg ... ref=slogin

Oh, and there is this:

The new survey announced by the mayors involved 803 adults from Jan. 10 to 15 by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, a Democratic polling firm, and the Tarrance Group, a Republican firm. The survey found that 56 percent of respondents said they favored stricter gun laws. The margin of error was about 3.5 percent, plus or minus.
 

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Videos.

Matt Gottshalk, who is working on a promotional video for VCDL sent me the video he took of the Liberty Coalition/GOA/VCDL joint press conference yesterday and the rally afterwards.

Beautifully and professionally done!

Here are the links:

VCDL rally (two different formats. If one doesn't work, try the other):

http://www.vcdl.org/Bloomberg/Bloomberg_Picket.mov

http://www.vcdl.org/Bloomberg/Bloomberg_Picket.wmv

Press conference (again, in two formats):

http://www.vcdl.org/Bloomberg/Bloomberg_Presser.mov

http://www.vcdl.org/Bloomberg/Bloomberg_Presser.wmv
 

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Thanks for posting that MP.

And a big thanks to anyone involved with taking Bloomberg down.
 

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From Newsday.com: http://tinyurl.com/2uvq3k

Gun shops fight back with 'Bloomberg Gun Giveaway'
By Chuck Bennett
amNewYork Staff Writer

January 24, 2007
Southern firearms dealers are raffling off free guns to raise money to fight a lawsuit by New York City.

The unusual fundraiser -- officially called the "Bloomberg Gun Giveaway" -- is organized by the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun owner rights group, and firearms shops.

"These are sick people," Mayor Bloomberg said. "And if they think that this is funny, I don't think that the parents or the spouses or the children of those that get killed with illegal guns would find that very entertaining."

New York City has sued several southern gun shops as a public nuisance for providing guns that were eventually used in the commission of crimes.

"He should lock up those that cause the problems," said Richard Hill, a salesman at Bob Moates Sports Shop in Midlothian, Va. His gun store,
which is a defendant in the city's lawsuit, is raffling off a Para Ordnance .45 caliber automatic handgun worth about $1,000.

"Instead of dealing with his problem of criminals in New York [Bloomberg] wants to blame everyone else outside of New York," Hill said.
 

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Bloomberg Threatens Congress

From The New York Sun: http://tinyurl.com/2nfmnr

On Guns, Bloomberg Issues Threat to Capitol Hill Lawmakers

By RUSSELL BERMAN
Staff Reporter of the Sun
January 24, 2007

WASHINGTON â€" Taking his fight against illegal guns to Capitol Hill,
Mayor Bloomberg has a warning for members of the new Congress: Vote
for a measure backed by the gun lobby, and he'll remember in 2008.

Mr. Bloomberg issued his threat yesterday as he convened a national
summit of more than 50 fellow mayors from both major parties, all members of the coalition he cofounded to combat illegal guns. The day-long session, which included leaders from Los Angeles, Chicago, and Newark, centered on ways to advance federal legislation to help police track illegal gun sales, and to oppose measures that restrict law enforcement.

The mayors zeroed in on a measure known as the Tiahrt Amendment, named after its chief sponsor, Rep. Todd Tiahrt, a Republican of Kansas. The provision would prevent the police from using some gun sales records from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.
Versions of the amendment have passed Congress for the last four years after being attached to larger Department of Justice appropriations bills.

With the backing of the National Rifle Association, some lawmakers have pushed for making the restrictions permanent, a proposal the coalition yesterday vowed to oppose.

"This is a law that restricts information that is there and that any
rational person would want in the hands of any rational person in this
country," Mr. Bloomberg said.

Because the amendment is often attached to much larger bills, members
may defend their approval of it as a compromise vote aimed at passing "the good things" in the legislation, Mr. Bloomberg said. But he'll be watching. Pledging to talk to every lawmaker he could, the mayor said he would tell them that if they vote for the Tiahrt Amendment, they are "voting to put guns in the hands of criminals."

"And I'm going to try to remind every one of their constituents, particularly two years from now when they have an election," Mr.
Bloomberg said.

A permanent adoption of the Tiahrt Amendment would also strike at a key strategy of the Bloomberg administration by restricting how data is used in civil lawsuits. The city has sued 27 gun dealerships that sold guns llegally and has reach settlements with seven dealers that have agreed to a court-appointed monitor.

A spokesman for the NRA said yesterday that the lawsuits were the only reason Mr. Bloomberg wanted the data restricted by the Tiahrt Amendment. "What they're trying to do is get this information for political reasons," the spokesman, Andrew Arulanandam, said.

Looking to rebut attacks from the NRA, Mr. Bloomberg stressed repeatedly yesterday that his effort was not a Second Amendment issue,
but a crime issue.

Yesterday's summit in the Cannon House Office Building drew a small protest by leaders of several gun rights groups, who held a news conference across town in the New York room of the Capitol Hilton
hotel to criticize Mr. Bloomberg. The president of Virginia Citizens Defense League, Philip van Cleave, announced that two gun shops â€" one in Blacksburg, Va., and one in Richmond â€" would be holding a "Bloomberg Gun Giveaweay," in which customers who bought $100 worth of merchandise would be eligible to win a $1,000 pistol or rifle.

Asked about the promotion later, Mr. Bloomberg said the organizers were "sick people."

At yesterday's conference, the mayors also released poll results
showing support for their cause among Americans. And they announced
the creation of a bipartisan House task force, to be headed by Rep. Charles Rangel, a powerful Democrat who is the dean of the city's congressional delegation, along with Rep. Peter King, a Republican of Long Island, Rep. John Conyers Jr., a Democrat of Michigan, and Rep.
Mark Kirk, a Republican of Illinois.

Mr. Bloomberg, along with the mayor of Boston, Thomas Menino, formed the coalition last year, and it has grown to 123 mayors from 44 states.
 

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Rammstein said:
Nice. Now lets see if the BATF will actually do anything about it.
[T]he U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has confirmed in a letter that an investigation is underway.

SAF founder Alan M. Gottlieb said today that a letter he received from W. Larry Ford, Assistant ATF Director for Public and Governmental Affairs, confirms that the agency "is investigating the matter in order to determine if violations of federal firearms laws occurred." Ford could not offer details in his letter, explaining to Gottlieb that the agency cannot comment on "an open investigation."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20070206/p ... ante_sting
 

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That's a good start, but I am still calling shenanigans until real action is taken.

Honestly, does anyone believe that anything is going to happen to any public official? I for one don't.

I won't say what I really feel, because it would not be appropriate for public consumption.
 
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