Bloomberg pays fines for 32,000 felons in Florida so they can vote

Discussion in 'Off-topic Political' started by StarJack, Sep 22, 2020.

  1. StarJack

    StarJack Well Aged Member

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  2. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    The commies are definitely panicking and going for any advantages they possibly can.
     
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  3. 45_Fan

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    What’s the big deal? They aren’t voting from jail.
     
  4. HJB

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    He is paying fines and restitution for felons that are not in jail but still can't vote because that law requires them to pay fines and restitution before they can vote.

    Actually, Bloomberg should be arrested and put in prison for voter fraud and buying votes. The guy is a real dirt bag !
     
  5. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    These are felons who have finished their incarceration, parole, probation and whatever afterwards and only owe court costs, restitution and fines. They cannot register to vote until those costs and such.

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  6. dhaller

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    It sounds like you're assuming they'll vote Democratic... I see no conditions to the deal which requires them to do so.

    It may be a pile of Aryan Brotherhood members, who obviously will be voting for Trump.

    Here was a result of a Marshall Project poll back in March:

    "A poll of more than 8,000 inmates suggests that allowing those currently or formerly incarcerated to vote will not necessarily benefit the Democrats, as many operatives in both parties believe.

    Slate and the nonprofit Marshall Project, a news site covering criminal justice, unveiled the survey Wednesday, and it is sure to be cited by civil rights groups pressing to expand the voting rights of convicted felons — whose main challenges have included persuading Republicans their aim is boosting civic engagement, not gaining a partisan edge.

    Some of the poll's most surprising results were about prisoners' views of the 2020 presidential candidates. Nearly half of white inmates said that if they could, they would vote to re-elect President Trump. Only 7 percent supported former Vice President Joe Biden, although most of the responses were submitted in January and February, long before he became the solid favorite for the Democratic nomination.

    Trump was also the favored candidate among non-white prisoners, with 19 percent support compared to 13 percent for Biden. (Nearly 30 percent, the largest percentage, said they would not vote at all.)"

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  7. OWM

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    You apparently missed the last meeting of the local chapter.
     
  8. atlsrt44

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    I agree with you a good bit. But if Bloomberg is doing this I guarantee it isn't for people who would vote for trump. Most likely his focus is heavily on south florida
     
  9. jsaund22

    jsaund22 Ninjaneering Computers

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    If you think he isn't carefully picking the demographics for those he's "helping", you're a complete moron.
     
  10. dhaller

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    Huh. How would that work?

    The process which Bloomberg is funding is managed by the FRRC (Florida Rights Restoration Coalition). The directors include a veteran and a former Republican lobbyist who worked with Ralph Reed (among others); I'm guessing they don't have green hair and nose rings.

    The process itself is that an ex-con applies with the FRRC, and they then pick up the ball and hand it to the Office of the Public Defender which then submits a motion to the appropriate court to review; if the court approves, that leads to a modification to restore voting rights.

    Granted, *maybe* there is a Big Ol' Secret Conspiracy comprising all of Florida's (mostly conservative) judges - since they'd have to be in on it - but of course, that may sound credible if you're susceptible to conspiracy theories. Maybe you are?

    Hint: a good way to look like a complete moron is to comment on something without having done a speck of research. And no, watching a "news piece" on OAN isn't "research".

    DH
     
  11. Harhib

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    This is of course assuming that enough of these “convicted felons “ vote to even make a difference
     
  12. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    I can't criticize Bloomberg's methods. Only his motivations. I don't think for a minute he wants to help conservative felons vote. He wants to restore the vote to a class of people he sees as anarchists, welfare-class leeches, and minorities who will wave the race card and be "victims" of our evil American society. People who will vote their dissatisfaction with America by electing leftist Democrats who will destroy America as we know it. People who will vote for more welfare and less freedom for everybody, since they know that they themselves can't handle living in a free society.

    But, dammit, it's perfectly proper for him to target this group of people (ex-cons who would normally have their voting rights restored, but can't because they cannot afford to pay-off all their fines, probation fees, etc.)

    They need financial help. He has the means to supply it. He can do it. It's not wrong to help people in need.
     
  13. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    16 million dollars used to assist 32,000 felons is only $500 per person.
    That's NOT a lot of money to most of us, but to the poorest folks in our society, coming up with an extra $500 lump sum is darn near impossible.
    And, frankly, those offenders who were white and grew up in suburbia with an intact two-parent family had their money paid off long ago-- if not by themselves, then by Mom & Dad, or Grandma, or a kindly Aunt and Uncle. It's poor black and latino families that typically have the most trouble paying off debts and court fines.
     
  14. Craftsman

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    The Florida AG is investigating to see if he is buying votes. (Hint, he is). The AG obtained a "smoking gun" letter to the effect that a modest "investment" in fines/restitution could provide additional voters in a demographic that historically votes 90-90% for the Democrat party. It is illegal to provide a "thing of value" to anyone in exchange for a vote. The word "investment" is going to be their undoing. I would love to see maximum sentences for 32K offenses, running consecutively.
     
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  15. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    (A) there's nothing wrong with enabling somebody to vote, as long as you don't pay them TO vote. Paying off somebody's fine isn't any different than supplying them with a free ride to the polling place, even if the "fair market value" of a taxi service to make that trip would be $40. It's not the same as giving the person $40 in exchange for their promise to vote as you direct.

    (B) Yeah, blacks typically vote 90% in favor of Dems, and the other 10% DON'T vote for the GOP-- they are 3 times more likely to vote for independent or third-party candidates than to pull the lever for a Republican.
     
  16. moe mensale

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    Yeah, because Mikey is out buying votes for Trump.
     
  17. moe mensale

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    I'm sure there are no conditions tied to his generous largess. And we know about all those vets and "republicans" that hate Trump's guts, don't we?
     
  18. moe mensale

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    Some folks think Mikey's generosity borders on criminal activity.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/matt-gaetz-election-bribery-probe-bloomberg-florida
     
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  19. moe mensale

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  20. StarJack

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    "This donation is targeted to particular groups that Bloomberg believes will vote for Joe Biden. Heck, Joe Biden believes it, according to his “You ain’t black” comment. One of the criteria is that the individual is already registered to vote. You can bet that to be eligible, the former felon must be registered as a Democrat. This donation is the definition of attempting to buy an election."


    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...bloomberg-buying-the-florida-election-n964303
     
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